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ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
11/20/08 11:27:13
251 posts

Hawaiian Chocolate


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Any reviews of Original Hawaiian Chocolate Factory? I'm currently tasting their Criollo Dark bar.How about Malie Kai? They seem to be a fondeur. Can anyone confirm that?How about Private Reserve? I'm not sure if they make bars or just chocolate sauce. They say their chocolate comes from beans grown on the North Shore of O'ahu.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
11/20/08 11:20:30
251 posts

Hawaiian Chocolate


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Has anyone tried Hawaiian Vintage Chocolate ? If so, what do you think?Are they bean to bar?Their website is vague about the beans they actually use. (Not a good sign.) For example, they say here . "As agricultural conditions vary from year to year and season to season, each year's product will contain a different percentage of Hawaiian grown cocoa beans. " What other beans are they using to supplement when the Hawaiian supplies are low? What island of HI are their Hawaiian beans grown on?I'd appreciate more info from those who might know.
updated by @ChocoFiles: 04/21/15 16:15:32
James Cary
@James Cary
11/19/08 01:08:58
32 posts

wwoof-ing on a cacao plantation


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

Hi,I'm interested in becoming a wwoof (willing workers on organic farms) on a cacao plantation. Preferably in Mexico (but willing to look at opportunities in all of Central America and India as well). Has anybody had any experience and have any recommendations? I much appreciate it!James
updated by @James Cary: 04/09/15 12:20:32
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/17/08 11:30:43
1,696 posts

Your Top 10 Favorite Chocolate Experiences of 2008


Posted in: Opinion

As we near the end of the year, it's customary to look back and reflect on what exactly the heck happened and to try to make some sense of it. My local radio station has a Top 1043 songs of all time list that they compile each year from listener votes.Now, this is of course an unscientific sampling that may not result in anything that can be considered statistically valid. But it will be meaningful to everyone here on TheChocolateLife, so please share. The cutoff for adding your list is New Year's Eve.There will be at least one prize for the most interesting list(s) (and it has to be true!, well mostly). I am not sure that the prize(s) will be yet but it will probably have something to do with chocolate. I am going to judge the entries (my own will not be eligible for a prize).Questions? Comments? Lists? This is the place to look back on 2008 and let everyone know about your year of chocolate highlights.:: Clay
updated by @Clay Gordon: 04/19/15 17:15:41
Carlos
@Carlos
11/16/08 00:50:34
1 posts

History and origin of Chocolate painting and sculpture.


Posted in: History of Chocolate

Hi, I'm really interested on knowing the history and origin of chocolate art, and also why is people still practising it now? Can someone please drop by and answer me? Thank you!
updated by @Carlos: 04/14/15 23:07:42
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
08/06/09 12:13:16
1,696 posts

Multi-Disciplinary Art/Design Curriculum Using Chocolate


Posted in: Opinion

August 8, 2009 Update: I met with President Maeda last May in New York at a RISD alumni gathering. I mentioned this proposal and was told he had no memory of receiving it. I resent it to him. Still no word.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/15/08 20:13:37
1,696 posts

Multi-Disciplinary Art/Design Curriculum Using Chocolate


Posted in: Opinion

Most of you probably do not know that I am a graduate of the Rhode Island School of Design, one of the nation's most highly respected art and design schools. Over the Columbus Day weekend in mid-October I attended a major reunion and was asked to speak on a panel about "Life After RISD." I guess parents are comforted by the fact that even though their children might not make it in the art field of their major (mine was photography), they can be successful in other areas. Excited by the experience and meeting the new president, I forwarded on the following proposal for a new program at RISD, which I think could be offered in other contexts. So far I have not heard back from them.Would YOU like to take this class? Can all this be done in six weeks or would it be better as a ten-week summer program? Any other thoughts?ABSTRACTThere are surprisingly few departments at RISD where an exploration of chocolate as medium, object, and/or subject is not relevant:Illustration, Graphic Design, Painting, and Printmaking (surface design, advertising design);Illustration, Graphic Design, and Industrial Design (packaging);Industrial Design (moldmaking);Sculpture, Painting, Illustration (as a medium);Photography, Film, Animation, Video (as object and subject);Apparel, Textiles; and Liberal Arts (history, geography, cultural anthropology, foodways, geopolitics, critical writing).Chocolate as Medium, Object, and Subject for Visual Artists is an inter/multi-disciplinary course in which students explore a broad range of 2- and 3-dimensional design challenges where chocolate is used as a medium of creative expression, the object of design challenges, and the subject of observation and serious literary and artistic critique.During the course of this program, students will be engaged in individual and team projects in 2-D surface design, three-dimensional design and construction, apparel design, user interface and user experience design, and written criticism, among other topics.Projects will include the design and production of multi-colored transfers used to decorate chocolate, designing and producing prototypes for chocolate packaging, designing and producing advertising and collateral materials for a fictional chocolate company, the design and production of prototype 3-D molds for chocolate using a number of manufacturing techniques, using chocolate as a painting medium, using chocolate as a sculptural medium, incorporating chocolate in garments, designing machines to process chocolate, designing a web presence for a fictional chocolate company, and examining the modern culture of cacao and chocolate in developed and developing countries.
updated by @Clay Gordon: 04/13/15 19:07:59
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/14/08 11:08:27
1,696 posts

Roasting Cocoa Beans


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

This thread really does belong in the HomeBrew Group. I am closing this thread to further comments and cross-posting this thread in that group.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/14/08 11:00:42
1,696 posts

Roasting Cocoa Beans


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Bette:I offer a variety of beans in 10 pound quantities at quite reasonable prices. I chose this weight because it fits in a USPS Priority Mail flat rate box and because it's a good size to start experimenting with. When you get to the point where you want more beans - no problem. We can offer the same beans listed here in bag quantities (about 100 pounds) and I am working with a ChocolateLife member to secure several tonnes of beans, so we can meet your needs as you grow. We are offering mostly specialty beans with some "value" beans from West Africa and the Dominican Republic.I let Pam Williams know that she can refer to me as a source for beans for her students. Maybe you can check with her about that, too.While it is possible to modify a home coffee roaster in general those machines get too hot and spin too fast. So if you're serious about repeatable results a device like the Behmor - at a minimum - is a must. When your demand grows you can get a professional coffee roaster. They cost a lot more but you can roast a lot more at the same time, too and you will get far more consistent results.There is another thing to consider ... which is where your interest truly lies. Do you want to make chocolate or tinker with machinery? If you want to tinker with machinery then by all means, go ahead. But if you don't and/or aren't mechanically inclined, then don't. Focus on what you want to do and look for ways to accomplish what you want using machines that other people make. The HomeBrew group is the real place to have this discussion and there is already at least one forum thread on equipment.Until then, roasting in the oven works well as Holycacao says and his advice is good. For consistency it make sense to put some sort of ceramic object in the oven. There are liners that you can use, bricks, or the pizza stone. The requirement is to stabilize the temperature of the oven and minimize temperature changes when you open and close the door. Having a lot of ceramic reduces temperature "bounce" to a minimum. I would also recommend not depending on the thermometer in the oven. Buy a separate one with a large dial that you can keep in the oven.Finally, something that Alan McClure of Patric Chocolate said in a talk he gave in New York last year really rung true to me: become an obsessive note taker. Keep track of as many variables as you can think of - including humidity - so that from batch to batch you learn to identify aspects of the environment that affect the chocolate you're making.
Bette
@Bette
11/13/08 23:25:01
5 posts

Roasting Cocoa Beans


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks for your reply. I have already visited chocolatealchemy and read his 'take' on roasting beans.I'm considering taking the on-line course for making chocolate through ecole chocolat next spring.I'm trying to find a less expensive source for larger quantities of cocoa beans to roast.It's a fun journey.
holycacao
@holycacao
11/13/08 23:06:36
38 posts

Roasting Cocoa Beans


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

You can roast in your oven, you don't need a coffee roaster, if you have one that will work. The temperatures are lower for roasting cocoa so that's the only place modification may be necessary. You can find lots of info at ChocolateAlchemy.com. I have found that the best way to roast in the oven is to use a baking stone in the oven, preheat for at least 30 minutes @200 c. Then spread the beans in a single layer on a sheet pan-perforated is better (I now use those wire pizza racks/trays). Roasting temperatures and time vary according to bean size and type, desired flavor, and ovens.Before I bought any chocolate making machinery, I would roast and winnow my beans, and then grind them in a coffee grinder with sugar and sometimes vanilla. It was crude chocolate texturally, but delicious nonetheless.As for beans, Clay has many quality varieties on this site, and so does John Nanci at chocolatealchemy.Enjoy, it's a fun path to journey.
Bette
@Bette
11/13/08 10:22:21
5 posts

Roasting Cocoa Beans


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I want to try roasting my own cocoa beans at home. I stumbled across a 1947 'Home Ec' booklet put out by General Foods (now Kraft) that gave a brief history of cocoa making in the US and talks about the fact that Baker's Chocolate for baking is just roasted and shelled cocoa beans ground up.I understand that there is quite an art to making chocolate. I have looked at options for roasting cocoa beans and I wonder of a coffee roaster could be modified to do the job right.I have been researching vanilla for awhile and I am a friend of 'The Vanilla Queen', Patricia Rain. I have also imported some vanilla beans from the only commercial vanilla bean farmer in Australia. They are lovely.I am in serch of the best and freshest products to use in my own cooking and I hope to promote such to others.I, too, am looking into how I can buy fermented, but not yet roasted cocoa beans of good quality in bulk amounts at favorable prices.
updated by @Bette: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Deliciosa
@Deliciosa
11/12/08 23:10:16
1 posts

Hello!!


Posted in: Allow Me to Introduce Myself

Hey everyone!! Nice to be a part of the Chocolate Life!!Just want to share/learn something...How many of you are members of PastryScoop? And if you don't know about them, they do events at FCI in NYC and even have some Chocolate events now and then! And membership is FREE!!! Just go to www.pastryscoop.com
updated by @Deliciosa: 04/17/15 18:51:40
Georgina Joey Ledlie
@Georgina Joey Ledlie
11/14/08 21:27:33
19 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

How on earth do you make inserts ? You amaze me Annette ! joey
Georgina Joey Ledlie
@Georgina Joey Ledlie
11/14/08 21:26:58
19 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

hello Clay, thank you for helping. I do want to show you a photo but i will have to make up a chocolate because i ate the other one ! LOL. never leave a piece of chocolate anywhere near me.. it's fatal for the poor little thing ! So, for now, it is a square shape with a raised design of 2 cupids holding hands. The chocolate is black chocolate and the cupids will be painted gold. Being cupids, they will be lovely for Christmas, valentines, boyfriend/girlfriend gift. it is 5" x 5" and 1" thick. I was thinking around $ 4.00 - $ 5.00 depending on the packaging. I will have more designs later.The other products I make are mostly fudge and caramels... you can see them here on my site..wwwfudgetherapy.wetpaint.com my caramels are moulded in pretty shapes and i sell the flower ones in a little bag... 3 in a bag... with a tag and a ribbon bow. The fairies - 1 per bag. The fudge is cut into bars and wrapped and labeled. Hugs, joey
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/14/08 12:56:54
14 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Another thing to think about, Joey, is what you are saying about the chocolate with the packaging. Do you remember the market studies that I posted? They took the leading brands of a particular category, say coffee, and they researched the packaging, the colors, texture and size of fonts, where they were placed on the shelf and who bought them? There are lots of questions to ask yourself that you can glean from that article. One that I was greatly challenged with was the placement of my product against another. Mine had to be different, unique, speak to the consumer that I was targeting, and do it thru the packaging. If you want, post a picture of what you are doing, and we can do a collaborative consult for you, free here, and everyone can learn. I have found that a lot of "food" people can be awesome cooks and bakers, but, we all need help when it comes to understanding positioning of our products and packaging.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/14/08 11:17:20
1,696 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Georgina:It's very difficult to talk about this in the abstract. Posting a photo of the item in question, as well as pointing us to other visuals you're using would really help some of us who are struggling to visualize and grasp what you're trying to so.I studied at one of the best design schools in the country and the statements from you. "I want simple and classy..." and "I want an old fashioned font... and lots of gold" don't really help me understand what you're trying to achieve. Annette is right in the sense that you have to know who you are selling to, but there's another point there is that sometimes you get so close to the mechanics of the thing that it's difficult to step back an get a fresh perspective. I totally understand that that is what you're asking for here, but you're keeping from us important information:1) What's the retail price of the product?2) Who is the buyer?3) For themselves? A gift? Impulse item?4) If you don't want to share a picture, can you describe the mold motif?5) Where is the product found (what other kinds of products surround it)?6) How are other products you make packaged?When I work with some of my consulting clients these are all questions that have to get answered before we focus on transparent plastic versus box versus tissue versus crinkle, etc.:: ClayMake sense?:: Clay
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/13/08 23:16:09
14 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Joey,I am going to be making my own chocolate tray inserts. Yes, it takes a bit of time, but, not much. And I am not totally sure of the outlay. I have different shaped chocolates that I am producing. I, too, want what you want. So, since I can't find a tray or cushion that is a stock item, I am going to make my own. You vacu form it yourself. I do it myself, cause my run is so small, I would never burden someone else, a company, to do it for me. It would be too costly for me, and not worth their time. Making a vacu form machine is a snap, really. I am currently looking for a supplier of the plastic to make the inserts out of. There is a company in Michigan that has the plastic, and a friend advised me of them. You make your own shapes to put on a board, and vacu form over that. Take the plastic off and put it in your box. Viola! You got it! My pictures won't be up on my blog in time to help with this, and you might think of this for the future, not now. If your chocolate can fit into a stock tray, get a chocolate one, as it plays up the richness of the item. The person opens that box and it just says "Enjoy!!!!". What do you think?
Georgina Joey Ledlie
@Georgina Joey Ledlie
11/13/08 19:11:38
19 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

hello Valerie, Thank you for helping. I appreciate it. Cushioning the chocolate is certainly a problem. I have thought of tissue paper.. ugh !, shredded cello even... But it didn't look nice. I know the "big boys' use specially moulded plastic to sit the chockie in, but of course, i can't afford anything like that. A bag.?.. hmmmmmm Might work. I know this is a problem but i am enjoying it all LOL. The more i am thinking now about a bag, the more i like it ! Should i still wrap the chockie in foil to protect it ? Hugs, joey
Valerie
@Valerie
11/13/08 15:56:25
29 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

How about dropping the box idea and going for a clear bag instead. You could put your label on one side and tie it closed with a nice ribbon. Then you don't have to worry about cushioning the chocolate in a box or having it bounce all around.
Georgina Joey Ledlie
@Georgina Joey Ledlie
11/13/08 14:42:16
19 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Hi Annette. I want an old fashioned font... and lots of gold. I want the packaging to be very rich.The box I am thinking of ordering is a clear box. i really wanted a box with a clear window but that turned out too expensive. The chocolate itself is square . I thought i could wrap the chocolate in gold foil to keep it fresh ? Though if i do that, no one can see the chocolate ! I suppose i could put a picture of it on top of the box ? This is driving me crazy insane! I will have to make another chocolate to show you because i ate the other one ! hahahahaa. It would certainly be for a gift. I will have different themes so that the gift can be for any reason.Joey
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/12/08 22:11:34
14 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Joey, unless someone sees the item that you want to package, they can't rightly answer. What is the mold of? Could that hold a key to the way to package it? What is the occasion that the chocolate will be given for? Who to? All these have a bearing on an item.What are you "saying" with your chocolate? What kind of font do you want to use? What shape box? What color? How is it to be distributed?You can see on my blog the fun that I had with developing "Nawtees Chocolates" and the ideas that went behind the label design. You can also see what led up to the "Fournier" laber, too. You have to tell us what you are trying to do with this chocolate...who is it you are offering it to...what they want...what they will buy.With "Nawtees Chocolates" I want to create the idea that one is having a very intense chocolate experience...one that is so good, it's got to be bad!!! Bad meaning good...anyway,...the double entendres with the name is so cute" A Nawtee Moment is a Good Moment!"...so, I want sexy packaging...I looked around to what I thought would be sexy and asked friends of their opinions.You might remember me asking on the other list, how can I make someone pick up my chocolate and not want to put it down? How can I set my chocolate apart from others, so that it does not look like I am a hobbyist, or weekend crafter? I want a totally professional look to the chocolate, too. That is when I decided to start sculpting masters and create my own unique molds. They are so beautiful and charming, and they convey the "thought" that I want to...the shapes even present a reason for someone to give them as a gift...I think I am onto a winning thing here...a product that is irrestible and makes them want to pick it up and eat it...a product that gives them a complete chocolate experience...wrapped/boxed in packaging that they would even want to collect.I love packaging. It's so much fun to figure out how to position yourself against all the others on the shelf and stand out...and make sales!Let's just continue this here, the moldmaking and such. I do want to let you know that I am making a mold that is going to be a biscuit/biscotti/snap with chocolate in it. Wait till I post the pics. In a week!!!
Georgina Joey Ledlie
@Georgina Joey Ledlie
11/12/08 18:31:52
19 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Hi Annette, I knew you would have an answer for me LOL. I want to get it all ready, packaging and everything before I put up a photo. I have been working on this one for months ! The mould is perfect, the chocolate come out from the mould perfect too ! It is only the packaging that is bugging me. Got to get it right ! I want a simple, classy packaging. I want gold in there somewhere...Trying to get it done for Christmas but i don't think that will happen. i found a great box making company. Their prices are so good and they make to order..If there is anyone here in Australia and wants the name... please ask me.yes, a mould making topic. I am sure many would be interested in this. I know myself that there is so much more to learn about mould making.Hugs Annette...Joey
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/12/08 17:01:56
14 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

Hey, Joey! Glad to see you on the board!When it comes to packaging, it is very much a personal taste thing, I think. You have to know who you are wanting to have buy your chocolates and what they would like the item packaged as. You could ask some people for their opinions, people in your target group, what they like. Also, find out what your target group buys, what other brands and see what their packaging is like.When will you post the pics of the new mold that you made? I think I should post more pics of mine. Hey, maybe we could start a different thread for moldmaking and chocolates. That would be of interest to lots of the readers, Joey!!!Talk to you soon!!!Annette
Georgina Joey Ledlie
@Georgina Joey Ledlie
11/12/08 14:59:17
19 posts

Advice on packaging please


Posted in: Opinion

hello, I am a new member and my name is Joey. I have designed and made a chocolate mould all by myself LOL. It is a simple design really, basically square but pretty. My problem is how to package and present this piece of chocolate in the best way that I can. So far, all I can think of is to put it in a square, transparent box. I don't want the chocolate to just sit in the box... it will need something around the chocolate. I have tried tissue paper and that looks awful ! The chocolate would stick to the tissue wouldn't it ? I would so appreciate any ideas that all of you can give me.Thank you in advance, hugs, Joey
updated by @Georgina Joey Ledlie: 04/13/15 00:21:01
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/11/08 10:22:33
1,696 posts

Which pieces of equipment do/can you use for small productions?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

This discussion belongs in the Home Brew Chocolate Group .It has been moved and this discussion is closed to further comments. In order to reply to the post you need to join the Group first.:: Clay
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/10/08 23:49:01
14 posts

Which pieces of equipment do/can you use for small productions?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

For small batches of chocolate, can an Indian wet grinder, such as the Ultra Pride +, http://www.innoconcepts.com/prideplus.htm , work as a small melangeur? I think that this is a smaller unit than ones I have seen offered on other websites.Oh! I also am interested in anyone's comments on a Corona grain mill for cracking the beans. I understand that it can sufficiently crack the roasted cacao beans. Again, I do not do a large load of beans, so a small item is sufficient for me. I don't want to put the beans in a bag and hit them with a hammer, which is why i am opting for a Corona.Has anyone tried a roasting drum from this vendor on Ebay? http://cgi.ebay.com/COCOA-CACAO-BEAN-ROASTER-DRUM-fits-RONCO-SHOWTIME-6000_W0QQitemZ320264638202QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Hot_Beverage_Brewers?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 It looks like a fellow chocolatier has found a good niche product. Anyway, he says "Why purchase an expensive Cocoa (cacao) Bean Roaster when you can buy this extremely easy to use and very inexpensive Cocoa Bean Roaster Drum to roast cocoa beans with your RONCO SHOWTIME 6000 Pro Rotisserie appliance!!"Has anyone tried roasting this way? I like the inside of the drum, and think that it would do a better job than roasting in an oven where I have to go burn myself while I turn the beans while they roast. I think this could work. Anyone with experiences in using these items?I think those are the three pieces of equipment that I need input on. The roaster with drum, the Corona grain mill, and the Spectra Ultra Pride +. Thanks for giving me your advice! AnnetteOh! One other question. Compared to the quality of commercially made chocolate, how do you rate your chocolate's taste, look, aroma? What differences do you really see?Thanks!
updated by @Annette Jimison: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/09/08 00:47:16
14 posts

Enjoyable story behind Amedei Chocolate


Posted in: News & New Products Press

I am late to this. Searching for the top rated chocolate blogs and chocolate websites I ran across this story: "Appeared in the May 2006 Issue of Food and Wine" http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/the-worlds-best-chocolate The World's Best ChocolateAfter trying a chocolate so good it leaves him speechless, Pete Wells goes on an urgent tasting mission to cult Tuscan chocolatier Amedei.By Pete WellsLate last year, I grew curious about an Italian chocolate brand called Amedei. I mean curious in the same sense that sharks are curious about surfers. Amedei, founded in 1990, is the joint project of a 42-year-old Italian named Alessio Tessieri and his younger sister, Cecilia; he buys the cacao and she turns it into dark, glossy bars. In November, a competition in London awarded a gold prize to one of Cecilia's handiworks, a single-plantation chocolate called Chuao. Two other Amedei products tied for silver.Both the visionary French ptissier Pierre Herm and the visionary Spanish chef Ferran Adri have said that Chuao might, in fact, be the world's greatest chocolate. And yet Amedei is sold in only a handful of stores in the U.S., andwhile a new importer has big plans for the brandfew Americans have heard of it.How had the Tessieris vaulted from obscurity to produce chocolate in the same rarefied league as Cluizel, Scharffenberger and even the mighty Valrhona? And, more urgently, where could I get some?The second question had an easy answer: Chocosphere, World Wide Chocolate and other very handy Web sites for people who care about cacao content. A carton from Chocosphere containing just over a half pound of Amedei bars and squares ran me $50, with shipping. The next day, the whole box was gone. In my defense, I've seen engagement rings that came in bigger boxes. I knew that I wanted more, but at $100 a pound it would be cheaper to fly to Italy and go to the factory myself, which is what I did. This might make me the first traveler in history who went to Tuscany to save money on a candy bar.The Tessieris work about 40 miles west of Florence, close to the Arno, and not far from Pisa; the Italian wine and food magazine Gambero Rosso has called this region the Chocolate Valley because of the concentration of chocolatiers who work thereamong them Paul de Bondt, Roberto Catinari and Luca Mannori. The Chocolate Valley is not nearly as famous as other parts of Tuscany. For me, this only increased its allure. While other tourists inched through the vineyards of Chianti staring at the exhaust pipe of the rental car just ahead, I would be lazily bobbing along in a rowboat, dipping pieces of bread over the side into the world's biggest fondue.Amedei sits just outside Pontedera, where they build those stylish Vespa scooters that make even old Italians look young. Amedei's factory, a low brick structure, used to be an iron foundry. Alessio and Cecilia met me inside a tasting room, where a table was set with linen tablecloths and silver chargers. Two large jars were prominently displayed; filled with what looked like water, each held a large, red, heart-shaped object. Cecilia wore a severe suit of charcoal gray, a no-nonsense expression, and a red scarf; the factory was cold that day. Alessio's face was round and rosy, and his rimless eyeglasses made him look more like a graduate student than a chocolate baron.Trying to make small talk, I mentioned hearing that there were many other chocolate makers nearby.Alessio shook his head. "But those other companies do not make chocolate," he replied. "They buy it."In the lofty strata where Tessieri operates, "making chocolate" means that you make the chocolate. You import cacao beans from plantations. You roast them and husk them and grind the cacao nibs into a fine paste. You add sugar and grind some more. Finally you swirl the mixture in open tanks called conches, which smooths the texture while helping to blow off acids and other nasty flavors. It's complicated, demanding work, and few small companies even attempt it.Cecilia asked me to put on a hairnet, a plastic jacket and disposable blue booties, then led me downstairs to the factory. The machines, Swiss, Italian and German models painted ivory, clacked and hammered away, sounding like an orchestra of conga drums. A young guy with tattooed forearms strained to push sweetened cacao paste through a screen with a paddle. For some reason, the floor was painted blood red. The chocolate smell was so strong and pure I could barely think. Somehow I managed to remark to Alessio that these antique machines must limit the quantity of chocolate Amedei can make."The problem is not the machines," he said. "The problem is cacao. We can't find enough good cacao." Only by starting with prime cacao, he explained, can you achieve the quality and character that set Amedei apart from the candy makers, who buy bulk chocolate."Everyone said, why do you want to work so hard and invest in machinery?" Alessio explained. "Everyone said to make chocolate, you need to produce tons, not kilos. But this was a desire to do something unique."But that wasn't the Tessieris' only desire. When we simply love something we eat, it's natural to imagine that it was made from the same simple love. And often we're right, but the motives that drive people to work as hard as Alessio and Cecilia can sometimes be a little more complicated.The Tessieris did not set out to make chocolate. In the beginning, like the rest of the Chocolate Valley, they made candy. Their parents owned a business in Pontedera that sold pastry ingredients to bakers. Alessio and Cecilia went off on their own, but they didn't stray far. They rented a small room in town and began to experiment with what they call pralines and we call filled chocolates. Soon enough, they wanted to move to a higher gradethe highest grade they knew. So the brother and sister, who were still in their 20s, went to visit a chocolate maker they greatly admired.In 1991, Alessio and Cecilia made a pilgrimage to Tain l'Hermitage, in the Rhne Valley, for an appointment at Valrhona. The Tessieris were humored for a while, but when they were ready to make a deal, they were sent away with nothing. The French wouldn't even negotiate. According to Cecilia, they were told that Italy wasn't evolved enough to appreciate such extraordinary chocolate.It was a personal slight, a national insult, a call to arms. "Right then and there," Cecilia would later say, "it was war."Chlo Doutre-Roussel, the author of The Chocolate Connoisseur and one of the world's leading authorities on fine chocolate, uses another word to describe what came next: vendetta. "Everything Alessio does, he does with intensity," Doutre-Roussel says. "So this revenge became his focus. He put everythingthe family money, even his sisteron this project."Within three weeks, the Tessieris decided that they weren't going to buy chocolate anymorethey would make it. Cecilia apprenticed with bean-to-bar artisans around Europe. At first they bought cacao from brokers, but by 1997, Alessio had begun hunting it himself, from Ecuador to Madagascar to the Caribbean coast of Venezuela. This last region was especially rich with cacao of the first rank; a lot of money was at stake, and life could get rough. Four years ago, someone tried to murder a cacao buyer who worked with Valrhona, strafing his car with an automatic weapon and leaving him with a half-dozen gunshot wounds.The most famous Venezuelan cacao of all comes from Chuao. The trees of Chuao are shielded by mountains from all but the warm Caribbean breezes; the soil is naturally irrigated by three cascading rivers. Doutre-Roussel calls the region "one of the jewels of the earth." Besides the microclimate, Chuao has centuries-old traditions of harvesting and preparing cacao. First it's fermented to develop the compounds that will later blossom into rich aromatics, then it's laid out on the parvis in front of the village church to dry slowly in the sun. Because the farmers worked together as a cooperative, Chuao is one of the only places where a chocolate maker could buy, at one stroke, 9 to 10 tons of uniformly excellent cacao. Until recently, that chocolate maker was Valrhona. Today every last kilo of cacao from Chuao goes to Amedei.Alessio went around to the brokers and negotiated directly with the farmers' cooperative, offering to pay off their debts and triple the previous price for their beans. "By the time Valrhona realized, it was gone," Doutre-Roussel says.Cecilia transforms the beans of Chuao into chocolate that packs a sensory wallop I tend to remember for weeks. It's very aromatic, with a clarity and elegance more often found in wine and some single malts. One bar retails for just under nine dollars. Chuao represents just a fraction of Amedei's total output, yet it has made the Tessieris famous.The story of how Amedei eloped with Chuao and sent the wedding pictures to Tain l'Hermitage isn't exactly a vision of sugar plums, but the chocolate industry has a long history of wars, most of them far more brutal. Steve DeVries, a bean-to-bar chocolate maker from Denver, used to say that the Spanish arrived in Mexico and threatened, "Give us your cacao or we'll shoot you." Hunting beans in Mexico, DeVries repeated the remark to an anthropologist. "No, no, no," the anthropologist said. "Before that, the Aztecs came down and said 'Give us your cacao or we'll cut your hearts out.'"Even today, the chocolate trade looks a lot like it did in colonial days: Raw materials bought at generally low prices in the tropics are shipped to the developed world and turned into a luxury product. Today, three of the largest importers of cacao to America are fighting a lawsuit filed by a human rights group claiming that they buy beans harvested by child slaves, mostly in the nation of Ivory Coast. Several journalists have contended that the extent of slavery in the cacao industry has been overblown, but it's hardly comforting to hear that the number of slaves who helped make your afternoon snack has been exaggerated. Without doubt, adults and children on some cacao farms, particularly in West Africa, perform demanding, exhausting work for awful pay.Most chocolate makers know nothing about where their cacao comes from. A former consultant for a well-regarded European chocolate maker told me that until last year, the firm's cacao buyer had never been to a plantation. Farmers sell to brokers who sell to bigger brokers; by the time the cacao reaches the factory, nobody knows its story. Sometimes this arrangement allows growers to mistreat workers without accountability. It also can allow them to get the same price for unripe, rotting or generally trashy beansat their worst, these are known as "dogs and cats"that they get for the good stuff."We became convinced it was impossible to become number one in the world buying beans from brokers," Alessio says. "The broker cannot tell you who grew the beans, or how it was done." I don't take Alessio for a weepy humanitarian, and yet he practices enlightened self-interest when it comes to the people who grow his cacao. He has invested in Chuao, agreeing to pay off the farmers' mounting debts and buying baseball uniforms for the local team. He needs their best work so that he and Cecilia can do their best work.Back upstairs in the room marked Degustazione, I stripped off my shower cap and booties and sat down across the table from Cecilia. For a long time, neither of us spoke."So," Cecilia finally said. "You want to try the chocolate?"She walked to the sideboard and pulled down three trays, each arrayed with a different cru. Valrhona was the first to borrow that wine term and apply it to chocolate; Amadei uses it to describe bars made with beans from the same region. Amedei's Grenada I Cru was quiet and had something about it that reminded me of raspberries. The Jamaica was stronger and made me think of pipe tobacco; so did the Venezuela, but it also had a durable aftertaste of good black coffee. Then Cecilia offered me a tray of the first chocolate she made, called Toscano Black 70 percent. This time, I had trouble picking individual voices out of the choir. I mostly remember the overall sensation of getting all the deliciousness any sane person could want.All the while, I'd been looking at the red heart-shaped objects that were floating in the two big jars. I kept thinking about the Aztecs. At last I asked Alessio what they were. "Cacao pods," he said. "In formaldehyde so they do not dry up." The one off in a corner behind the door was a unique Venezuelan variety called Porcelana. The other, placed on a low table next to all the trays of chocolate, gleamed and glistened like a trophy. That one was Venezuelan too, Alessio said with a smile. It came from Chuao.Find more information about Amedei at amedei-us.com.Pete Wells is a contributing editor to Food & Wine. E-mail comments to him at pete.is.hungry@gmail.com.
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Bhuvan
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01/13/09 00:10:22
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HI RajiI will like to contact you in person, kindly advice your contact details with phone number.I am from Bangalore, I had also emailed you, hope you have received my mail.Looking froward to hearing from you. My email is emailbhuvan@gmail.comRegardsBhuvan
Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
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12/16/08 07:15:35
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Indian Cacoa


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Hi Omkar,You don`t need any govt permission or such things to grow Cacoa in this country. What you need is land and materials. Here in my area (west coast , close to port city Mangalore) it is easy to get Cocoa plants. Wet Cacoa seeds germinate easily. If your area is hot and humid , I feel you can grow Cacoa. You may try with agriculture dept nurseries or else Cadbury centers. Hope this information helps.Raji.
Omkar
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12/12/08 06:04:58
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Indian Cacoa


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Hi Rajeshwari, I am Omkar Gogate from Mumbai. I learn that you are a Cacao Grower in India. It is an interesting fact because very few indians know about any cocoa grown at home. Well I am interested to know if Cocoa can be grown in the Coastal region of Konkan, Maharashtra? What are Government requirements for growing cocoa? and availability and legality of aquiring the seeds? I request you to please give me this information.
Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
@Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
12/11/08 20:28:28
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Bette,Sorry for the delay. Can you please give me your Email id. Please write me at rajisullia@yahoo.co.inRaji.
Bette
@Bette
12/02/08 08:03:19
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Indian Cacoa


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Raji, thank you for your reply. I did not hear back from you in a few days and I forgot to check back after that time due to our recent American Holiday, Thanksgiving. I'm sorry for the delay in my reply.I hope that you are not personally touched by the recent events in your country: such un-necessary heartache.I do not know anything about the prices of cocoa beans in India. What do the big chocolate companies usually pay the growers per Kg - of do they buy it by the ton?In your reply to a separate inquiry from Erin, I realize that I need to ask the form of your cocoa beans. Do you ferment them yourself? I would be interested in beans ready to roast, but I could learn to ferment them myself, if necessary. Perhaps they need to be fermented before leaving your country, because I understand that such a process kills any bacteria they might contain.When you use the term: 'wet Cocoa beans', I believe that you mean the un-fermented bean, yes?How far do you take your chocolate product yourself? Do you make chocolate bars or cocoa powder?I am interested and prepared to import some of your product. I have the FDA registered separate storage facility to receive such a shipment. We would have to agree upon a price and an amount and I would need to check on the form the beans need to be in to enter this county.If you need an export license on your end, I hope that will not be too costly or troublesome for you. What is the state of your shipment services from your country? Our USPS has flat-rate boxes for international shipments.I also am still willing to share in the importing of some of your beans with other 'The Chocolate Life' members if there are any takers out there.I await your reply and I am willing to e-mail you off of this site.
Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
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11/24/08 08:29:23
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Indian Cacoa


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Erin, I am from South India. Most of the Cacoa growers sell wet Cacoa beans to either Cadbury or other chocolate gaints like Amul, CAMPCO, which are cooperatives. A few farmers ferment and sundry their produce and then sell it.Raji.
Erin
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11/18/08 15:47:43
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Indian Cacoa


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Rajareshwari, I would be interested in learning more about what you are doing with Cacao in India. You mentioned you are both a Chocolatier and a cacao grower. Where are you growing the cacao in India and what processing are you doing with the cacao? BTW, nice pod pictures!
Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
@Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
11/15/08 21:33:33
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Indian Cacoa


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Bette, I grow Cacoa commercially. I am not a keen Organic grower. If you wish I can send you a couple of Kgs of Cocoa beans by Courier. If you are really interested in Indian Cocoa I can export as much volume as you need. Right now I don`t have export license. It will take a while to obtain it. Let me know the probable price too.Raji.
Bette
@Bette
11/13/08 11:31:39
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Indian Cacoa


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Rajarajeshwari, are you interested in exporting some of your cocoa beans to the USA?How much cocoa do you grow? Is it just enough for your use? Would you be able and interested in expanding your cocoa growing orperation if you had an increase demand for your product?I have a commercial building that is registered with the US FDA as a storage facility for imported food products.We would have to agree upon an amout of product for an initial order and register that shipment prior to it being shipped. I can send a wire transfer to pay for the shipment with the proper bank routing.I would be willing to order a sample shipment of your cocoa beans and share this opportunity with other 'Chocolate Life' members, especially Sarah Hart & Madame Cocoa.How do you grow your beans? Are they organic? How do you ferment them?As Madame Cocoa asks, 'Do you have any pictures to post?'
Madame Cocoa
@Madame Cocoa
11/12/08 21:34:52
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Hi Rajarajeshwari (anything for short?). Let's start talking about it!! I am so excited to see this, because I was in Tamil Nadu in April, and learned of a friend of a friend who was growing cacao in Kerala. I went to Goa but was unable to explore further. Where is your business (as a chocolatier) and where is your cacao grown? Do you do small scale processing on your own or sell your beans? Do you have any pictures to post? Tell us more!
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
11/11/08 18:37:10
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Indian Cacoa


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I would love to know more about Indian cacao, but I do not think it is widely available, at least in the US. I have coffee in my shop and we use an Indian coffee called "thogarihunkle" and I wondered about an Indian cacao to pair with it.
Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
@Rajarajeshwari Kainthaje
11/07/08 08:27:06
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Indian Cacoa


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I wonder why Indian Cacoa is not discussed in Chocolatiers Forums . Is it because it is not exported ?I am a professional Chocolatier and Cacoa grower as well.Most of the trees here are Forestero variety.
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Carlos Eichenberger
@Carlos Eichenberger
11/08/08 08:15:27
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Growing Cacao Trees


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Cacao requires a very moist and warm climate to thrive. In Arizona it would be quite the endeavor because of your extremely dry climate. It would certainly mean having the tree(s) in a climate-controlled greenhouse with misting and other humidity enhancers.
Annette Jimison
@Annette Jimison
11/06/08 23:49:26
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Growing Cacao Trees


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I so would like to grow my own cacao trees. I guess once smitten by the whole process, you want to look into the feasibility of growing a few of your own. Yes, just to have them, at first. But, what if they take to your area? What parts of the states are good for raising cacao trees? Are there any "hot-house" trees, i.e., greenhouse grown? This would be interesting to me. Where would a person find cacao trees, male and female, and/or self-pollinating (is that the correct term?) to start with?I think once you are truly smitten by this passion, (it's more than a hobby or business, it truly is), having a few trees of your own is understood. Just like wanting to make your own chocolate from bean to bar.At a new job that I started today, I shared that my hobby is "manufacturing chocolate", and the response was just as wonderful as you would expect. This is nice. I even have a few that want to come over when I am roasting the beans to see what is done.I can't wait to start sharing this with them. Perhaps we can develop a group of some sort locally of people who want to explore this together!!! I would so love that, even if I cannot grow a couple of trees where I live right now, I can definitely share this passion with others!


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