Forum Activity for @Diana

Diana
@Diana
02/20/09 13:22:20
12 posts

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Posted in: Allow Me to Introduce Myself

That's what I'm hoping too! I have to say I've been quite successful in negotiating reductions but they are still a way off what I feel comfortable with. The landlords here haven't been reading the news! They are still holding out for an easy way to boost their pension funds for the most part. I've even enlisted the help of local government to try and convince them that we are better off with full premises at low rents than having empty buildings and a town centre which is slowly closing down for good.
Debby
@Debby
02/20/09 10:23:36
10 posts

Newbie


Posted in: Allow Me to Introduce Myself

Actually, the economic gloom may be to your advantage if you can find someone with a place they want to get rid of or rent out and has been empty for a while. I'm waiting for the price to come down, yet again, on a place near where I live. It's been empty for over a year. Eventually, it will get down to where I can afford it.
Diana
@Diana
02/19/09 09:02:04
12 posts

Newbie


Posted in: Allow Me to Introduce Myself

Hi,I'm joining you from the UK, so hi everybody. Like those of you working at being a chocolatier, I don't have much time spare, but like to browse through anything chocolate related when I get a moment to myself! I've been working with chocolate for a couple of years and hope to find premises soon (despite the economic gloom) before my husband and kids report me for filling every inch of the house with packaging and couverture!I look forward to getting to know you all.Diana
updated by @Diana: 04/17/15 16:30:20
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/21/09 07:06:38
103 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Debby.The idea behind it all is that I want to work with chocolate professionally. I am still not sure whether opening a retail store (at some point in the future) is part of the plan, but I do want to change careers for something more independent and creative.I will start working out of my kitchen, and I know I will start small, without trying to buy every single gadget I see. I am going slow, but steady.Thank you for your notes. That's very helpful.
Debby
@Debby
02/20/09 10:18:53
10 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

It really depends on where you are going, what you need. A lot of stuff can be found in a moderately equipped kitchen. I started out with a thermometer and such that I had in my kitchen. I made ganache and truffles and nut butter cups by painting chocolate into foil cups. No molds, no tempering machines, no caramel bars. I have my chocolate set in an unheated room on the north side of my house instead of a chocolate fridge.I now have more equipment and am making a variety of confections, not just chocolate. Tho' chocolate remains the center of what I'm doing. I'm still working out of my kitchen. I have purchased a small tempering machine and gotten a hold of a marble slab I picked up for free. Next up is caramel bars. Instead of buying them from a kitchen supply place, I'll be buying them from a metal supplier. You can get 316SST bar stock, which, when sterilized is food grade. Many places will for a small fee, cut to length. It's less expensive that way.So, Andre, which way do you want to go? That will determine what equipment you need, if any.
Ernesto B. Pantua Jr.
@Ernesto B. Pantua Jr.
02/19/09 22:47:24
7 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

This discussion has been a big help to me yes for us here in southern Philippines we do not have an expert on chocolate making, so we are on our own and thanks to the internet we get a glimpse of what should a chocolate artisan should have. We have been growing cacao for at least 30 years and our only product aside from beans is the traditional pure chocolate tablets molded by hand. It is used in making hot chocolate and chocolate rice porridge (in our dialect champorado). Tempering is foreign to us so I have really to learn the craft. Thanks a lot for you guys1
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/19/09 20:37:52
103 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am so glad to be surrounded by such a generous group of people.Some of you guys have been on the road for a while and have a lot of experience. Still, when a newbie ask such a basic question, you are open and helpful.Thank you!
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/19/09 07:34:21
103 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Langdon Stevenson.Thank you for the info.I started my first chocolate training this past Monday, so we've been tempering like crazy and all by hand. I like it a lot, honestly, but I also know it will become "old" after a while - and, as you said, depending on the quantities I start working with.I still need to do some more research on tempering machines - the feedback I've heard so far have not been great...probably because the people I've been listening to are also newbies to the subject.
Langdon Stevenson
@Langdon Stevenson
02/18/09 19:01:58
51 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Nice job all round then. Premises can be one of the hardest things to get (expensive if you are renovating, or doing it yourself). Sharing is a great idea if the hours suit.:-) I was in Melbourne in the 90's, but moved north following work. Ask your partner if she knows where a number 6 tram goes from and to - that will give you a good idea of where I used to live and work ...
Langdon Stevenson
@Langdon Stevenson
02/18/09 18:17:32
51 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks for the feedback Devil, much appreciated. Necessity is the mother of invention and it sounds like you have come up with a pretty neat and affordable solution for tempering.
Langdon Stevenson
@Langdon Stevenson
02/18/09 16:42:21
51 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Devil, can you tell us how big a batch you can temper? When you say manual, do you use a jacketed pot and automatic stirrer/scraper, or is it all by hand?
Langdon Stevenson
@Langdon Stevenson
02/18/09 14:23:11
51 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Andre, these things don't necessarily have to be expensive. With tasks like cooling and tempering, the most important thing is to understand what the tool is doing and how. This is just some basic chemistry that will have been explained by people like Minifie and Beckett (who have published books on the subject). So start with some study and research to get a grip on what is going on.Once you understand that, you can look around for cheaper, or free alternatives. Often other industries have very similar equipment that is available cheaply second hand and can be adapted. You may even find that you can do things like tempering by hand, or partly by hand (of course this is dependent on the quantities that you are working with).
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/18/09 13:55:30
103 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thank you. The IR thermometer is absolutely on the top of my list! Chocolate refrigerator? ai ai ai...this thing is going to get expensive!
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/18/09 13:54:33
103 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I should move the "sense of adventure" to the top of my list.Thanks. Great tips.
John DePaula
@John DePaula
02/18/09 13:40:06
45 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Chocolate melterTemperer (optional)IR Thermometer (I think it is essential...)Chocolate Refrigerator with a fanMolds (if you're doing molding)Ganache frames and/or caramel rulersetc. etc. etc.Bon courage!
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/18/09 11:14:48
103 posts

Starting out now - what are the essentials?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I've noticed many here are already experienced chocolate makers, so I apologize for the very basic question.I started my first chocolate training this past Monday and I am absolutely excited about this new world that is opening up for me.I want to start small, learn slowly and create beautiful, tasty chocolate (like everyone else, I guess). But I am not sure I understand what I really need to get started from home.What would be the essential tools to get started?This is what I think I need:- Couverture chocolate- Bowls- Pans- Rubber or wooden spatula- Thermometer- Gloves- Cocoa powder, cocoa nibs, etc (to cover the truffles, for instance)What else? Am I missing something critical? I know there is a lot more to it, but I want to get started sooner than later.Thank you,Andre CostaChocolatier-to-be
updated by @Andre Costa: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Sonya
@Sonya
02/02/10 20:11:32
4 posts

THE BEST of.....CHOCOLATE - my favorites


Posted in: Opinion

My favorite chocolate is Charbonnel et. Walker, the pink champagne truffles.
Juan Gonzalez
@Juan Gonzalez
02/01/10 13:46:18
1 posts

THE BEST of.....CHOCOLATE - my favorites


Posted in: Opinion

Hi Peter, Have to say this is a great list. Is there any place to get Dominique Persoone here in the US? I'm going to try and check off your list. I was able to try ROYCE here from www.royceusa.com - tastes very different and unique from the European style chocs, but definitely a notch above Japanese confectionery.
Peter Kimmel
@Peter Kimmel
02/18/09 03:47:40
1 posts

THE BEST of.....CHOCOLATE - my favorites


Posted in: Opinion

my FAVORITES:1) CHOCOLATE LINE, Brugge, Belgium, www.dominiquepersoone.be/ For me the best Overall Chocolatier of the World2) PIERRE MARCOLINI, Brussels, Belgium, www.marcolini.be/EN/accueil.html Praline & Caramel Spread, really awesome pralines3) GUIDO GOBBINO, Turin, Italy- www.guidogobino.it/e_index.htm Milk,Gianduja & White Chocolate Bars with toasted Piemont Hazelnuts4) JACQUES TORRES, New York, U.S.A., www.mrchocolate.com Milk Chocolate with Hazelnuts, Chocolate Powder for Hot Chocolate5) ROYCE Chocolate, Hokkaido, JAPAN - avail.TOKYO Narita AirportUnique Mousse ChocolateSoon some more informations and photos
updated by @Peter Kimmel: 06/09/15 08:14:06
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/17/09 10:34:05
103 posts

ICE - Institute Of Culinary Education (New York City)


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

Well, you are probably taking a better approach. I've never made chocolate in my life until yesterday night! I guess I want to start as a blank slate and go from there.Good luck to you, as well.
Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
02/17/09 10:03:12
55 posts

ICE - Institute Of Culinary Education (New York City)


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

Hi Andre,I will take a course but later, after I've made all the dumb mistakes that everyone probably makes when starting out. The hope is that it will sink in better that way! Good luck with it.Duffy
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
02/17/09 07:24:36
103 posts

ICE - Institute Of Culinary Education (New York City)


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

I started my first chocolate class yesterday at ICE in Manhattan. It is going to be an intensive one week program, from 5pm to 11pm every day! phew!I just wanted to share my good news with you guys and ask whether there is anyone in this group that is also taking that class?Has anyone taken the class as an introduction to chocolate?Thanks,Andre
updated by @Andre Costa: 04/10/15 03:06:49
Andrés Jara
@Andrés Jara
06/20/14 21:23:51
1 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi!

Dou you also have small scale cocoa butter presses?

lim.cezar
@lim.cezar
09/15/12 23:31:22
4 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

hello! patrick,

are you still looking for small scale equipment? you can email me.

thanks!

cesar

l_cezar@ymail.com

lim.cezar
@lim.cezar
09/15/12 22:39:41
4 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

good day stephen,

are you still interested in a small scale processing equipment? if yes pls. contact me may email add.

l_cezar@ymail.com i can help you. thanks!

cezar lim

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
08/11/12 11:22:11
1,697 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Mohiddin:

1000 MT of beans will result in something around 750-800 MT of liquor which will then be pressed into butter and powder. That means processing something like 3.4-3.6 MT of liquor per day (assuming 220 working days per year).

This is industrial-scale production and cannot be done (let alone be done cost effectively) using small scale equipment. I would be really surprised if you could purchase the equipment for less than US$500,000 before shipping, import duties, and installation costs. It might be closer to US$1 million. You might be able to save money by buying used equipment, but I would be extremely careful about making sure that everything actually worked. I have heard too many horror stories.

As much as anything, this is a materials-handling problem. Storing, cleaning, and moving around that quantity of beans, liquor, butter, press cake, and powder is non-trivial. You are going to want professional assistance from a company that specializes in producing equipment that operates at this scale.

mohiddin  ghouse
@mohiddin ghouse
08/11/12 03:00:09
2 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Langdon:

Any idea what the total cost of the system is likely to be in USD? How many of the production steps below will the system you're building handle?

Clean
Roast
Crack/Winnow
Grind/Refine

cocoa butter pressing

cocoa powder


We aretargetingto process cocoa beans for 1000 mt per year.

Reallyappreciate details of your plant and the costs involved.

It isratherurgent..Can you send details to ghouse8@gmail.com?

Regards

Ghouse Mohiddin

Hyderabad

India

antonino allegra
@antonino allegra
06/20/12 14:10:55
143 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi Bent,

that's a cool bunch of toys!!! i like the roaster and i find the grinder very interesting!

Together with cocoaTown melanger it would make the perfect chocolte lab or a chocolate factory for the Smurfs!!!

An amazing tool for educational use as well!

What is the price of both? can you send me a quote to antonino@cocoafair.com


updated by @antonino allegra: 09/07/15 15:08:24
stephen sembuya
@stephen sembuya
06/19/12 07:40:45
5 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi, Am from Uganda, Africa and growing cocoa however i want to add bean to bar in my business and i have a budget of 40,000 USD. Any one who can link me to a smal scale processing equipment? send me pictures too.

Regards, Stephen

Juan Pablo Buchert
@Juan Pablo Buchert
10/08/10 11:04:37
8 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi Langdon,This is Juan Pablo Bchert, we are a small Farm in Costa Rica (40.000 Kg of beans/year). I wonder if your system is already complete. We are interested in developing a small scale industrial process (liquor, butter and powder, for chocolate we shall see).Best Regards (juanbuchert@gmail.com)
sibylle
@sibylle
04/19/10 17:39:28
1 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

hi langdon,since this is an old thread I hope you'll know about my little comment here;)I stumbled upon this conversation while looking for just the type of chocolate producing machinery you describe -small scale, starting from the bean, yet complete to get a really nice result.so, if you still can offer this kind of machinery, I would love to know more about it and receive some detalled information, prices, etc.hope to hear from you soon~sibylle
Bent ahm
@Bent ahm
03/14/10 19:46:04
6 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


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It is a handmade laboratory roaster for 100-300 grams, made entirely of stainless steel.
Brad Churchill
@Brad Churchill
03/14/10 18:48:39
527 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Holy Moly......How many lbs does it roast at one time again?
Bent ahm
@Bent ahm
03/14/10 14:06:54
6 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi Kerry,the roaster is US$5,650 ex Works, Lima, Peru. If you are interested in a formal quote with including cost of transport to you, please let me know, stating destination?Regards,Bent
Kerry
@Kerry
03/14/10 10:11:43
288 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

So cute - everyone needs a toy like that! Wonder what they cost?
Bent ahm
@Bent ahm
02/27/10 09:15:23
6 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi all, Peru produces excellent cocoa machinery. Mainly large scale from drying process on, however, we have just developed a Cocoa Lab equipment consisting of sample dryer, size sorter, sample roaster (100-300 grams/batch), grinder/refiner to 18-22micron in one pass. We are also working on presses and we have a very cost effective pulverizer for cocoa cake. Any questions welcome at ventasrpd@imsacafe.comalso look at LAB CACAO.wmv
chocolatte Roshpina
@chocolatte Roshpina
08/18/09 02:36:53
2 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

HI,great forum everybody. We are a Chocolate based Cafe in ISrael, and we are very happy there is a place where ideas can be shared. www.chocolatte.co.il
Patrick Nanau
@Patrick Nanau
03/16/09 15:20:30
1 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi Langdon,Can you contact us with information about you equipment. We are located in Solomon Islands and looking for small scale equipment and potential business partnersYou can contact us at www.soltrad.net
Langdon Stevenson
@Langdon Stevenson
02/18/09 15:19:08
51 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi ErnestoThanks for your interest. Sorry for my lack of clarity. Yes, we are aiming for under USD $1000 per kg per week. We expect that whole system should allow two people to produce at least 50kg of finished chocolate from a weeks labour, however, it may be possible (with more labour) to produce more. The cocoa butter press for instance could consume up to 150kgs of cocoa liquor per day, capacities can be very hard to match. So the complete system should cost somewhere round USD $50,000. How much product you can squeeze through is then up to you and how much energy you put into it :-)Note that this system is not currently complete, it is in development. So a final price and specification is still some months away.Regards,Langdon
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
02/18/09 07:07:04
1,697 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Ernesto:If you have not already, you might want to look into Kiva.org. They provide microfinancing to businesses all over the world.:: Clay
Ernesto B. Pantua Jr.
@Ernesto B. Pantua Jr.
02/18/09 05:44:07
7 posts

Source of Small Scale Cacao Processing Equipments


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi Langdon,Wow this is great! First is the 50 to 150kg per week in raw beans per week? We are currently roasting at 65kg raw beans per day. Do I get it right that you have a system for the process Clay described that would cost us about 65,000 USD for a 65 kg per day capacity? Please clarify.And also we are very much interested on your microfinance or leasing scheme. Could you give us a complete proposal so we can think over it? Would you consider barter system of payment where we could supply you of our finished products?Im looking forward to reading your reply.Jun
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