Forum Activity for @Jonathan Walpole

Jonathan Walpole
@Jonathan Walpole
08/24/12 08:02:10
6 posts

ABV in chocolate confections


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have been asked by a local winery to develop chocolates with some of their wines. I have developed some recipes I like using a ganache of chocolate, butter and wine (unreduced), however the Liquor Commision has told me the finished product has to have an alcohol by volume of less than 6%. Is there a way to determine what ABV is without sending the chocolates off for analytical testing?

Thanks


updated by @Jonathan Walpole: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Michael Karren
@Michael Karren
08/23/12 21:31:48
12 posts

Cream Center Recipe


Posted in: Recipes

Hey Everyone! I make old school chocolates, Cream centers (fondant). I love the flavor of Boston Buttercreams. If any of you have tasted it then you know what I mean. I have had difficulty matching the flavor of some of my favorite shop's and was wondering if any of you have a good recipe for BOSTON BUTTER CREAMS. I would be very grateful. Thanks!!


updated by @Michael Karren: 04/09/15 15:49:42
Matthew W.
@Matthew W.
08/23/12 13:05:23
10 posts

Help! Pricing questions


Posted in: Opinion

I would offer the same advice, try to limit the number of flavors and always try to hold your price, work off of your typical batch sizes, account for some extras and if you have a hard time reconciling the price, toss in some of the extras.
Katie Perry
@Katie Perry
08/23/12 10:51:06
16 posts

Help! Pricing questions


Posted in: Opinion

Thanks Greg! That really helps. If I can cut the flavors back even to 6, that would make a huge difference in cost, labor, everything!

George Trejo
@George Trejo
08/23/12 10:46:54
41 posts

Help! Pricing questions


Posted in: Opinion

If it were me, I'd offer 200 pieces and at most 4 flavors. My very first order was for 100 pieces and I did 6 flavors. It's a huge waste of time, and way too much of a hassle. If you have any upcoming shows or markets you could always freeze the extras and save them for then. Just make sure you use the right freezing technique.

For an order of 100 I would probably stay very close to my retail price. I wouldn't discount until the order was over $500, but that's up to you.

Katie Perry
@Katie Perry
08/23/12 10:35:42
16 posts

Help! Pricing questions


Posted in: Opinion

Hi - I am essentially a hobbyist that is just starting to do some small sales here and there for private parties. I just got a request for a corporate party: Truffles for 100 people, preferably about 12 flavors.

The first question is how many. I figured I would determine that once I had more specifics about the party, but my guess is between 200 and 300. I will take any feedback you have for me on whether or not my estimate is correct.

Secondly, how much should I charge? Generally I charge $1.50 a truffle. For larger orders it seems like the cost per piece should diminish, but I am not sure how far. Also to be honest, doing that many flavors will really stretch me considering that my smallest batch size is 36, and I don't really have an available audience to sell the extras too. With that in mind it makes sense for me to charge more, but I don't want to price myself out of the game. Should I request limiting the number of flavors to make it more economical for myself? Charge more for the variety? Give the customer what she wants despite the personal cost knowing I could see other benefits (future sales)?

Thoughts?


updated by @Katie Perry: 04/10/15 23:51:25
Paul John Kearins
@Paul John Kearins
08/19/12 11:38:12
46 posts

Table top tempering machine needed


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hi guys, I have finally arrived in the USA and want to get started pdq . I need a table top ( or small standing) chocolate tempering machine .... Minimum 6lbs capacity . Anyone have anything ?Starting up is costing an arm and a leg hence the need for a used machine. Give me a shout if you have anything ..... Thanks!
updated by @Paul John Kearins: 04/07/25 13:00:14
corinne mendelson
@corinne mendelson
08/18/12 00:17:52
20 posts

temperer


Posted in: Opinion

hi thank you for yhour answers. it is a little difficult to get a revolation for me since i live in israel and it is a little complicated since there is no chcocovision representative and to ship it overseas makes it more expensensive than to buy a pavoni mini temper. Do you know the pavoni mini temper ?is itsomething more or less equal to the revolation ? according to what i have seen the Pavoni's representative shop and what i see on site for the revolation it seems very similar the big revolation can temper more than the pavoni but the pavoni (3kg) is more what i need. I think thqt it was Brad that told me he has some problem with the Pavoni but i am very far from the time his machines works (8 hours a day).

Andy Ciordia
@Andy Ciordia
08/17/12 08:25:03
157 posts

temperer


Posted in: Opinion

Edward it sounds like they do it by hand now, they're looking to gain some efficiency and you can't grow effectively by continuing to do a hand temper.While you can enjoy the extra labor of tempering by hand, if you are small shop owner you've got plenty to do and a lot of it is not needed to be working your temperatures.

As well, how on earth do you hold temper for 3 to 4 days? Overcrystallizationoccurs naturally, you have to break it at some point. Do you not sleep either? hehe!

Anyhow, we've really had the pleasure of working with many of Chocovision's equipment. The smaller grade is a bit louder but what kitchen isn't. The Delta is a great machine as well and we've enjoyed its company for over a year now.

Edward J
@Edward J
08/17/12 08:15:35
51 posts

temperer


Posted in: Opinion

IMHO you should be tempering by hand.

Now, in my shop, I have two 20 kg (45 lb) and one 7 kg (15 lb) melters. I am the chief tempererer, as well as chief bottle washer.

Tempering is essential, and it should be mastered. It can't be mastered if you rely on a machine every day.

BTW, my couverture holds it's temper for 3 or 4 days in the melter

corinne mendelson
@corinne mendelson
08/17/12 04:39:17
20 posts

temperer


Posted in: Opinion

Hi to everybody ! i have decided that if i want to survive with my little shop i have to expand a litle and for that i need a tempereuse but i am confused about what machine to buy. I tend to buy the pavoni minin temperer because it seems easy to work with but i have already bought 2 melting machines that were supposed to be temperer therefore i want to have some tips. I don't need a temperer of more than 3 to 5 kilos but i need to have tempererd chocolate for as long as i need during the day. On the other hand i don't want a temperer working with the seeding method, so what would you recommend ? is there anything else than the pavoni for what i need ? i hope i will receive some insight because i am going to buy the machine and i don't know which one to buy


updated by @corinne mendelson: 04/27/15 00:13:05
Edward J
@Edward J
08/15/12 23:19:06
51 posts

panning equipment sources?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

In the past few years I have had moderate success with panning choc. hazelnuts, and have been happy with the D+R panning bowl. My sales are growing and the D+R is getting too small as well as developing problems.

The first problem was the shaft snapped off from the thick steel plate. This happened during a production run, and I needed the thing fixed FAST! I found a very competent welder who got it back to me within a day. However when the shaft snapped off, it dented the bowl a bit. Now the bowl has developed cracks where it was spot-welded to the shaft plate. It goes without saying that the warranty is long expired.

Does anyone know of a source for small (5-10 kg capacity) panning machines? I am in Vancouver, Canada.


updated by @Edward J: 04/07/25 13:00:14
Edward J
@Edward J
08/15/12 23:08:46
51 posts

Panning Process


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Very nice equipment!

I have only used a panning device with chocolate, and the ambient temp. should be around 13-14 Celcius.

The temp inside the bowl really doesn't matter much, but for chocolate work, cool air should be blown in during running

Regards,

Edward

Predrag Miladinovic2
@Predrag Miladinovic2
08/14/12 18:36:34
10 posts

Panning Process


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I would be grateful if someone could help me with the following questions:

1. What is the ideal room temperature during the process?

2. What is the temperature in the kettle in different stages?

In the picture is a small panning machine that I constructed, capacity 2 kg.


updated by @Predrag Miladinovic2: 04/11/25 09:27:36
mda@umgdirectresponse.com
@mda@umgdirectresponse.com
08/14/12 18:29:02
59 posts

How to print white on chocolate?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I'm sure that there are others here with more experience in this than I, but you could start here I suppose: http://www.chocotransfersheets.com

Anna Dovine
@Anna Dovine
08/14/12 18:26:57
3 posts

How to print white on chocolate?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks Michael. Do you know where to source the white ink?

mda@umgdirectresponse.com
@mda@umgdirectresponse.com
08/14/12 18:25:32
59 posts

How to print white on chocolate?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

The image is a little small, but I assume a custom transfer sheet would do the job quite nicely.

Anna Dovine
@Anna Dovine
08/14/12 17:04:07
3 posts

How to print white on chocolate?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hello,

I am new to chocolate.

Does anyone know how white printing on chocolate is achieved as in the picture? I am trying to source white ink but it is proving difficult.

Hope someone can help.

Anna


updated by @Anna Dovine: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Chocotoymaker
@Chocotoymaker
08/15/12 20:12:53
55 posts

Bar packaging supplier


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I use this guy

Jerry Hartje
National Sales Manager
Artistic Carton Co.
1975 Big Timber Road
Elgin, IL 60123
(c) 847-409-4138

Stacy Hankinson
@Stacy Hankinson
08/13/12 11:13:24
3 posts

Bar packaging supplier


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Go to http://www.aspecialtybox.com/ ...they also have some wonderful options. Little more pricey than Nashville and Modpac, but looks it too.

Good Luck!

Stephane Laviolette
@Stephane Laviolette
08/13/12 11:08:23
15 posts

Bar packaging supplier


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi

I had visited Nashville Wraps and did not find what I want, I just emailed Modpac, thanks for the tip !

Stephane

Stacy Hankinson
@Stacy Hankinson
08/13/12 09:56:07
3 posts

Bar packaging supplier


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Have you tried Nashville Wraps or Modpac?

Stephane Laviolette
@Stephane Laviolette
08/09/12 08:26:08
15 posts

Bar packaging supplier


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi

I am looking for a supplier for bar packaging.. I found chocolat-chocolat in montreal but they do not have what I need.. ideally I would like to find a pillow box with a window that would allow me to insert a 100g bar with some toppings on it, all that I found allowed no room, the fit was too tight.

any ideas ? I would not want to go all the way to china, i do not need too many right now.

thank you !

Stephane


updated by @Stephane Laviolette: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Solis Lujan
@Solis Lujan
08/04/12 22:24:05
26 posts

Of course they did!


Posted in: History of Chocolate

I thought this might be of interest to some of you. I have alway purported this was the case. How can it be that a great civilization that built the pyramids and charted the stars, ate and drank bitter gruel! Montezuma served Cortez and his men 500 dishes on his arrive toTeotihuacn. The word mole is used in combination with many mayan word meaning sauce of some kind, like guacamole.

Experts: Mayas may have used chocolate as spice
By MARK STEVENSON
Associated Press
MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Archaeologists say they have found traces of 2,500-year-old chocolate on a plate in the Yucatan peninsula, the first time they have found ancient chocolate residue on a plate rather than a cup, suggesting it may have been used as a condiment or sauce with solid food.
Experts have long thought cacao beans and pods were mainly used in pre-Hispanic cultures as a beverage, made either by crushing the beans and mixing them with liquids or fermenting the pulp that surrounds the beans in the pod. Such a drink was believed to have been reserved for the elite.
But the discovery announced this week by Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History expands the envelope of how chocolate may have been used in ancient Mexico.
It would also suggest that there may be ancient roots for traditional dishes eaten in today's Mexico, such as mole, the chocolate-based sauce often served with meats.
"This is the first time it has been found on a plate used for serving food," archaeologist Tomas Gallareta said. "It is unlikely that it was ground there (on the plate), because for that they probably used metates (grinding stones)."
The traces of chemical substances considered "markers" for chocolate were found on fragments of plates uncovered at the Paso del Macho archaeological site in Yucatan in 2001.
The fragments were later subjected to tests with the help of experts at Millsaps College in Jackson, Mississippi, as part of a joint project. The tests revealed a "ratio of theobromine and caffeine compounds that provide a strong indicator of cacao usage," according to a statement by the university.
"These are certainly interesting results," John S. Henderson, a Cornell University professor of Anthropology and one of the foremost experts on ancient chocolate, said in an email Thursday.
Henderson, who was not involved in the Paso del Macho project, wrote that "the presence of cacao residues on plates is even more interesting ... the important thing is that it was on flat serving vessels and so presented or served in some other way than as a beverage."
"I think their inference that cacao was being used in a sauce is likely correct, though I can imagine other possibilities," he added, citing possibilities like "addition to a beverage (cacao-based or other) as a condiment or garnish."
The plate fragments date to about 500 B.C., and are not the oldest chocolate traces found in Mexico. Beverage vessels found in excavations of Gulf coast sites of the Olmec culture, to the west of the Yucatan, and other sites in Chiapas, to the south, have yielded traces around 1,000 years older.
But it does extend the roots of Mexican cuisine, and the importance of chocolate, further back into the past.
"This indicates that the pre-Hispanic Maya may have eaten foods with cacao sauce, similar to mole," the anthropology institute said in a statement.


updated by @Solis Lujan: 04/14/15 12:56:10
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
08/16/12 14:05:26
1,696 posts

Dark Chocolate..


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Darlene:

First off, chocolate doesn't have any water in it, so you're not letting it dry, you're letting it cool down so that the proper crystals form in the cocoa butter. If you're working in a room that's 68F you don't necessarily need to go a lot cooler. I would start out thinking about the Rev 1 - and for that I need to know if the marbling effect you refer to is new, or is something that's always been an issue.

How long do you wait to start pouring after the Rev 1 beeps at you and tells you it's ready?

darlene
@darlene
08/15/12 15:56:42
10 posts

Dark Chocolate..


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

So Clay,, Would you say I need the proper refrigerator..I am still having this problem.

Thank You

Daniela Vasquez
@Daniela Vasquez
08/07/12 15:36:24
58 posts

Dark Chocolate..


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

After tempering? Ive noticed it depends on the climate you have where youre working, I like to leave it at room temp until the edges start to pre-crystallize, and then put it in the fridge. But if the day is slightly hot I put right in the fridge

darlene
@darlene
08/07/12 14:06:11
10 posts

Dark Chocolate..


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am using Felchlin and pouring into molds but my last batch was marbleing,I have a REV 1 to start out with but was letting my suckers air dry in room tempature almost 68 degrees , is that too warm? WOW it sooo hard to start all over! Lesson learned.

Thank you,Clay.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
08/07/12 13:35:43
1,696 posts

Dark Chocolate..


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Darlene:

When you say you are working with ... what are you making? Most chocolate products can benefit from being but in a cool (not cold) place after pouring to ensure proper crystallization, however most refrigerators are set way too cold.

Ideally, your working environment is between 60-68F. Crystallization can be done effectively at about 55F, but it's important to have sufficient air flow to remove the latent heat of crystallization. Most refrigerators are set at about 39F and don't have nearly enough air flow.

darlene gorman
@darlene gorman
08/04/12 16:22:33
1 posts

Dark Chocolate..


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am working with the medium dark chocolate..and wanted to know if it is always is supose to be placed in the refrigerator after pouring..I need some suggestions.

Thank you


updated by @darlene gorman: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Tracy Hueth
@Tracy Hueth
08/02/12 12:47:20
4 posts

Need chocolate supplier in Midwest for custom chocolate


Posted in: Uncategorized

I have a business that prints on chocolate. There are several of us in the US. Our current chocolate provider is on the brink of going out of business and we are looking for an alternate supplier. This is a very specific formula of chocolate with a royal icing on top which is what we print on. There would be about 6 to 8 different chocolate sizes. The current supplier is in NY so we are looking for someone that is more centrally located. The orders would probably be in the thousands per month. The icing would need to be manually applied. We have the specs for everything and should be pretty easy to do.

Let me know if you are interested or know of a shop that would be interested. You can check out the final products. We are looking for someone to do just a subset of the products on the website. www.ImagesPrintedOnChocolate.com


updated by @Tracy Hueth: 04/09/15 18:18:29
Daniel Herskovic
@Daniel Herskovic
08/06/12 09:14:28
132 posts

GANACHE FEELS CRUMBLY


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

For chocolate bon bons that use peanut butter or praline paste there should be more nut paste than chocolate for a smoother mouth feel. Also, you might want to explore the idea of using cocoa butter to crystallize the chocolate in your filling recipe. When you crystallize the chocolate and then quickly work in the nut paste, you trap the oils of the nut paste from migrating all over the place. I hope this makes sense. Good luck!

Christopher M Koshak
@Christopher M Koshak
08/03/12 10:31:32
15 posts

GANACHE FEELS CRUMBLY


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Christine, Two things, first off from what I've learned and read, if you completely seal the truffle in chocolate it should be air tight and be good for a month or more. Also if you want to extend the shelf life you could add a small amount of invertase to it and this should help as well.

Mark Heim
@Mark Heim
08/02/12 21:45:04
101 posts

GANACHE FEELS CRUMBLY


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

The ganache is an oil in water emulsion. So the water/syrup phase has a lot to do with texture. Peanut butter loves to suck up moisture, and so will have a dramatic effect on texture in no time. This is why nut pastes are made into pralines where there is no water.

The oil in the peanut butter when blended with chocolate will be enough to soften the texture you look for. A basic praline is 1:1 nuts:sugar, ground, and refined. There are French, German, and other types mostly differing in if the sugar is caramelized, boiled, or just used without any heat. Then added with chocolate for gianduja. Nice soft texture, smoothness depending on how well the praline is refined. You should need no added oils.

Anne Bennett
@Anne Bennett
08/02/12 14:04:01
10 posts

GANACHE FEELS CRUMBLY


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I know that people only consider a truffle a truffle if it's made with cream. I have no idea how the truffles that are in boxes for ages in stores are made.

I use organic, tasteless coconut oil for meltaways. Maybe it would give truffles a longer shelf life. You wouldn't have the bulk of the cream, but you would have centers that melt in your mouth. I'm just throwing this out there. I have no idea if it would work. I don't do much with truffles.

Christine de Massis
@Christine de Massis
08/02/12 09:55:36
12 posts

GANACHE FEELS CRUMBLY


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hello Everyone..

I need help in this matter...I make my ganache, I add more chocolate than cream and butter to it, because Im trying to increase its shelf life, as I have mentioned before I will be selling at different selling point where I cannot control the temperature. If I use creamy ganache I think the chocolate wont last more than a week or a week and half, correct me on that one if Im wrong.

So my question is: when I put my inclusions to my ganache, I will be more sepcific, I add peanut butter to the ganache and then pipe it in the chocolate bonbons...when I tried the chocolate and took a bite, the feel of the ganache was crumbly and hard, not silky smooth, yummy tase...any advice??? please help! What am I doing wrong?


updated by @Christine de Massis: 04/11/25 09:27:36
corinne mendelson
@corinne mendelson
08/06/12 23:27:06
20 posts

tea and chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

thank you so much for your help i definitly do as you say and i will look for the bergamot oil!

mda@umgdirectresponse.com
@mda@umgdirectresponse.com
08/06/12 19:46:46
59 posts

tea and chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

The thing about tea is that the flavor characteristics we tend to like (essential oils, etc) come out first during an infusion. The things we tend not to like (tannins, etc) come out later. Tannins typically result in a "bitter" or "astringent" taste. It's a "chewy" sensation toward the back of your mouth. Whether we're talking about tea, coffee or wine, a little tannin can be very good. A lot almost never is.
If you are experiencing this in your ganache, the most likely reason is not any type of reaction with the cream. Rather, you are most likely over-infusing your tea into the cream. Generally speaking, there are three ways to pull back on this. First, infuse the tea in cream for less time. If there's any way to infuse the tea for a shorter period of time and still get the final flavor you want, this is the way to go. Second, lower temperatures. Heat brings out the tannins. Turn the heat down. Third, surface area. Some teas have large leaves, some have small. The smaller the leaves, the faster the tea will infuse and the faster those tannins will rush into your cream.
As a side note, Earl Grey gets its distinctive flavor from oil of bergamot. If you add this oil directly rather than infusing tea into the cream you might have more luck, along with more control over the flavor profile of the final ganache. Just a thought.

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