solid cocao liquor
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Thank you Eric. So whats the % of each item then please ? That is , of course, if you don't mind sharing. Can I leave the angstrom calcium out altogether ?Thanks so much, joey
Hola Nany, me lleg a dissupp@yahoo.com uncorreo de Luz desde Chile, si ese es el tuyo, he tenido el placer de contestarte, espero poder servirte. Mi tlf. desde el exteriores 593 99701573 Saludos,
Ivn.
Hola Ximena:
Te puedo ayudar con cobertura en Quito, llamame a 09 852 4773 ac en Quito.
Saludos,
Jeff
hola Ximena, te quiero pedir un favor haber si me puedes ayudar necesito comprar chocolate para cobertura y he tratado de comunicarme con Fernando Crespo e Ivan Andrades, pero no responden, entonces quisiera saber si tu me puedes dar informacin dealgnproveedor de Ecuador. Yo tambien soy Chilena.
Saludos
Hola Ximena, al igual que a Olivier, te ofrezco el mejor chocolate ecuatoriano para fundir, espero me escribas a mi correo dissupp@yahoo.com y me indiques tu necesidad para gustoso ofrecerte los productos que tengo disponibles.
Saludos,
Ivan.
Hola Olivier, si todavia necesitas cobertura de chocolate, yo puedo proporcionarte la cantidad que necesites, estoy en Ecuador y tenemos el mejor chocolate disponible para elaborar productos de calidad, enviame las especificaciones que requieres a mi correo dissupp@yahoo.com y estare gustoso de poder servirte.
Saludos, Ivan.
Fernando,
Sorry I just got on this site for the first time the other day so I am not aware of who is who. I have not been to your farm as far as I know.
Max
Hello Max have you been at my farm? What year?
It's quite right that proper fermentation, soil nutrition and other factors can help the CCN51 taste much better than a poorly grown and processed bean. The Arriba accomplish this much easier.
The San Jacinto plantation was founded and is run by a very stringent biologist who has experimented quite a bit and produced some fantastic beans. I made up some samples of it in Guayaquil and they taste exquisite. I brought them to a client for a blind taste test and they picked them out of a choice of other CCN51 and Arriba of equivalent formulas.
Generally speaking if you really want richness, you are best off using Arriba beans for the cocoa liquor, and Arriba for the cocoa butter, making sure there is some verification they are Arriba, and whoever is processing them does it right.
Thanks for the clarification PIerrick! Yes, I can understand the milk recall. I know most processors aren't willing to go through the thorough cleaning the production line needs to get a "pure" product, since it involves shutting it down and the related costs.
Hello jeff;
We tried three different kind of partnerships in Ecuador at the beginning ( late 90's). At the time, no one was making high quality dark chocolate in Ecuador. (Tulicorp was just cleaning their first second hand conch , and we also did some sample run with them) we wanted to leave as much money as possible in Ecuador and make the first farmer's chocolate right there. We were proud of doing everything in country., Ecuacocoa was only making liquor then , Republica de cacao did not exist, kallari was busy grafting and expanding their replication center.( which we visited at the inception of the project: impressive) , and we wanted to make the chocolate in Ecuador . Ecuacocoa agreed to work with us and transform our cocoa beans into liquor, then chocolate at the conditon we would provide the missing equipment. The first batches made us realize; the machines were not conducive to reach the flavor profile we wanted , and we had heat and blooming issues,( due to the constant humidity ) later compounded by a product recall for traces of milk in a chocolate. So the trial was not conclusive . You probably visited Ecuacocoa at that time. and you stand correct for having seen the initial phase. Being the Pioneer, we had to explore all possible avenues in country, This took time, missteps and personal frictions. We learned from our errors and concluded we had toredesign in house the bean to chocolate process according to flavors and not volume or speed. This is what we do presently in our mini plant in the USA . We kept working with our Ecuadorian farmers, and the commodity chain,( printers etc), we developed more than a decade ago. I hope this clarify all rumors and misconceptions about Vintage Plantations: You post could mislead chocolate connoisseurs into thinking we are presently making chocolate in Ecuador, and that's what we are trying to correct.
Sincerely;
Thanks for the update Pierrick. Correct me if Im mistaken, but Ecuacocoa was processing your product for you at one time, is that not correct? I have no information on who or how you source your beans, but I do recall seeing your packaging on the factory floor in bulk on a factory tour at Ecuacocoa over two years ago. I can understand if you have changed processors or are doing it yourself.
On your web site it states at http://www.vintageplantations.com/store/our-mission/our-factory.html :
"Once our beans are collected, we follow a very specific procedure (tailored to each batch) for one week to transform our cocoa beans into 66 lbs. of chocolate blocks. This is the easiest way to store and move cocoa around in a very hot and humid country (we learned our lesson from trying to complete our process and package the products in Ecuador, only to see that we had melted and bloomed most of our production during truck movements from place to another). Hence, these blocks are sealed and brought to our premises in the USA for further processing and packaging."
So do you have the bulk chocolate made into bars in the US, or are you shipping liquor out of Ecuador, or bulk chocolate? It would be nice to have a clarification.
Just want to get the facts straight. Happy New Year!