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ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
04/23/08 15:40:00
251 posts

White Chocolate- is it really chocolate?


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P.S.- I can't get the Add hyperlink thing to work. Can someone please give me instructions how to do it? I want to have it be a word that is really a hyperlink that takes you to the site without showing the URL.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
04/23/08 15:36:55
251 posts

White Chocolate- is it really chocolate?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I took Casey's suggestion from her Chocolate Note blog ( http://chocolatenote.blogspot.com/2007/11/el-rey-icoa-white-chocolate.html ) and I'm currently tasting El Rey's Icoa White Chocolate, but I'm not really sure that it's chocolate since it's so different. I guess that the ingredients are pretty similar to milk chocolate (in order: sugar, cacao butter, whole and skim milk powder, soy lecithin, vanilla) but the only cacao product is "cacao butter". Is that enough to consider it to be chocolate? It's a nice little change of pace, kind of like reading a good detective novel as a break from classic literature, but is it really chocolate? It tastes more like candy to me. Is there any consensus out there? What do you think?
updated by @ChocoFiles: 04/10/15 03:52:26
Seby Singh
@Seby Singh
04/23/08 14:56:46
17 posts

Chocolate eating choices


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How do you decide what chocolate to eat every day? Does it depend on your mood, interest or curiosity to try something new?Of the two pieces I like to eat every day, one of them is usually a filled one - I am partial to passion fruit and the other is a piece of dark chocolate.What about you?
updated by @Seby Singh: 04/15/15 21:21:18
Scott
@Scott
02/22/11 11:03:07
44 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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For what it's worth, in a recent visit to the Mast Brothers shop in Brooklyn, I was told by Rick Mast that all chocolate used for all of their products was produced in-house from bean to bar.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
02/21/11 18:42:29
251 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Mast Brothers bars were among the most enjoyable of the bars I reviewed in 2010. They're doing fine work!

Here are my personal enjoyment ratings (on a 0-10 scale):

Venezuela 9.4

Brooklyn Blend 9.4

Domican Republic 9.1

I consider any rating >9 to be in my "Top Favorites"

My ratings can be found at ChocoFiles .

Jeremiah Jeffrey
@Jeremiah Jeffrey
12/01/10 18:48:10
2 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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I first seen them on cooking channels foodography. Seeing them gave me my final push to start making my own chocolate (which I have yet to do. Getting my ducks in a row for it.)
Scott
@Scott
11/09/10 19:28:10
44 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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As far as I know, Taza has always and only been bean-to-bar. That's not the case with Mast Brothers. This can be confusing for those customers who care about whether the chocolate they're buying was made in Brooklyn or merely molded there.
Gretchen Tartakoff
@Gretchen Tartakoff
11/07/10 04:07:05
7 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Mast Brothers aren't as completely as obscure as they sound because they welcome people into their 'factory' to reach their customers and fans. Taking the trip to see it is on my radar since I reached out to them to represent local bean to bar at the Bucks County Chocolate Show. It feels like they're paving a path similar to Taza.
Scott
@Scott
11/03/10 20:38:43
44 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Still curious if anyone has info about the proportion of Mast Brothers' bean-to-bar production relative to their re-melting.On a related note (i.e., to Mast Brothers' encroachment in some NYC restaurants), according to the NYT , Tcho is making an aggressive push to get into upscale restaurants, apparently succeeding with Del Posto.
Scott
@Scott
09/28/10 10:06:34
44 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Has anyone determined whether Mast Brothers has begun to sell only chocolate that they've made from bean-to-bar?If they're still remelting some, does anyone know (roughly) their proportion of bean-to-bar production to that using third-party couverture?
Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
09/27/10 16:03:21
55 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Their bars are available in London at Paul A Young's shops. Very nice - try them if you can.
Nat
@Nat
09/27/10 14:33:15
75 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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There is now quite a lot of buzz about the Mast brothers, probably due to them being in the middle of the burgeoning craft food movement in Brooklyn, and near all the media makers in NY:The mast brothers chocolate makers from Brooklyn make the medium screen again, now set to sail beans from Dominican Republic to NYC: Click to View Video Interesting video on artisinal Brooklyn chocolate ground the hard way: http://www.coolhunting.com/food-drink/the-mast-brothe.php Craft movement in Brooklyn: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/dining/25brooklyn.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=mast%20brothers&st=cse
Scott
@Scott
09/25/10 22:49:23
44 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Word is that Thomas Keller is using Mast Brothers chocolate at Per Se and the French Laundry. Remarkable.
Andrea Nadel
@Andrea Nadel
12/22/08 18:02:01
3 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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I love the Mast salt & pepper! Living in California, it's very difficult to get a hold of these bars.
Brady
@Brady
06/24/08 21:34:24
42 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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I tried another Mast Bros. This time it was their Dark Milk 65%. TCL member Rumi had a dark milk tasting a couple days ago. We put the Mast Bros in a lineup w/ Pralus Melissa, Bonnat Java, Bonnat Surabaya, Domori Latte Sal and Weiss Chocolat au Lait Entier. Everyone seemed to like the Mast and I picked it as my favorite of the lineup. I thought it was quite complex. Very dark flavor, roasted, short spicy notes in the middle, caramel appeared toward the end with a pleasant coffee flavor in the aftertaste. It resembled a hot chocolate drink at times. Another bar worth getting ahold of.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
04/22/08 20:52:04
1,692 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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Brady:Thanks for this intro to Mast Brothers. I first heard about them a couple of months ago but I seldom make it into Brooklyn so I haven't tried any yet. Do you still have the wrappers? Maybe you can scan and post them in a Photo album?
Brady
@Brady
04/22/08 19:59:03
42 posts

Mast Brothers Chocolate- bean to bar producer out of Brooklyn, NY


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A group of four of us tried the the Mast Brothers origin bars. Three bars labeled Venezuela 72%, Ecuador 66%, and Madagascar 64%. Due to a lack of major buzz generated about this company, we tried these bars with little to low expectations. Very small company operating in a kitchen in Brooklyn. Starting from the beginning, the visual appearance of the packaging is very cool. Heavy duty paper with various prints from floral to musical notes. No ingredients label to hint at what's inside. The mold is basic but the bars all had a very nice appearance with few flaws and wrapped in foil. Although the thickness was noticeably uneven. Most importantly, the experience of tasting them surpassed our expectations. Smooth texture and even melt for each. Bitterness well controlled. They also had a pleasant and fairly long aftertaste. Each bar exhibited the unique flavors of their respective region. The Madagascar was fruity, Venezuelan had subtle notes of berry but chocolaty flavor quite noticable, and the Ecuadorian bar was spicy with a cinamon flavor and some coffee notes. The Ecuadorian bar was so impressive we were suspicous of flavors being added. None the less, these bars are worth getting ahold of. Only available at a few locations in Williamsburg, Brooklyn at the moment.
updated by @Brady: 04/09/15 22:31:16
Brasstown Chocolate
@Brasstown Chocolate
10/29/13 08:17:30
14 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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At It's Chocolate we do it all from roasting to wrapping.

alexander varda
@alexander varda
07/15/13 08:17:10
1 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Sjolinds Chocolate House in Mt. Horeb Wisconsin is making nano batches bean to bar.

Adriennne Henson
@Adriennne Henson
03/24/13 18:09:35
32 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Would Fine and raw chocolate be considered for the list

I visited their factory last week in Brooklyn and they make their bars

there

Julie M. McLean
@Julie M. McLean
03/23/13 14:59:19
15 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I am adding to the list.

Sibu Sura Chocolates in Maryland

Gordon Terpening
@Gordon Terpening
09/25/10 18:04:40
1 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I guess it is my own fault for being left off of the list.CHOCOLA'TE in Bisbee, Arizona is beans to bar and we have been since 2008.
Wendy Buckner
@Wendy Buckner
04/30/10 12:10:00
35 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Sorry my link didn't attach.... they are: www.frenchbroadchocolates.com Click on their newsletter link and scroll down until you see "Seed to Bar" .
Wendy Buckner
@Wendy Buckner
04/30/10 11:14:59
35 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Just heard of another possible bean-to-bar in the makes. I have heard great things about this shop in Asheville, NC. Haven't been there though. They mention their plans in the newsletter link on their site. Can't wait to try!So, is this the new trend in shops? I would love to "make" my own chocolate too....but for now I am certainly happy to be the chocolatier that I am. I want to master one thing before moving to the next. I guess I could go back to the thread on "re-melters"...but I worry that us small artisan fonduers will increasingly become "frowned upon" for not making our own chocolate. I guess it all depends on what chocolate you use, right? ...and how we use it...
Barbara Wilson
@Barbara Wilson
04/25/10 23:09:04
2 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Adding my company Mindo Chocolate Makers: Micro-batch, bean to bar. We buy the beans right out of the pod and control the entire process including fermenting and drying all the way to molding the bars. We also make our own cocoa butter that we add to each chocolate batch. http://mindochocolate.com and http://facebook.com/mindochocolatemakers Here's my U.S. list:AmanoAmbrosiaAskinosieBittersweet CafeBlack Mountain ChocolateBlommerChocolate HavenCioccolatoDeVriesDe ZaanEscazu ChocolatesFearless ChocolatesFrescoGarden Island ChocolateGhirardelliGuittardJacques TorresKraft ??Lillie Belle FarmsLulu's ChocolateMarsMast BrothersMindo Chocolate MakersMerkensNestleOlive and SinclairOriginal Hawaiian Chocolate FactoryPatric ChocolatePetersRogue ChocolatierSacred ChocolateScharffen BergerSeeds of ChangeTazaTheoThe Oakland Chocolate CompanyVan LeerWilburWorld's Finest Chocolate
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
01/22/10 09:59:44
251 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Nancy,You should add your company information to the TCL Chocolate Makers database . That's a good place to store the information more permanently.
Nancy Nadel
@Nancy Nadel
01/21/10 23:21:22
13 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I'm adding my company, The Oakland Chocolate Company in Oakland, CA. I make chocolate from Jamaican beans exclusively. Very small batches. Bars and bonbons.Here's my U.S. list:AmanoAmbrosiaAskinosieBittersweet CafeBlack Mountain ChocolateBlommerChocolate HavenCioccolatoDeVriesDe ZaanEscazu ChocolatesFearless ChocolatesFrescoGarden Island ChocolateGhirardelliGuittardJacques TorresKraft ??Lillie Belle FarmsLulu's ChocolateMarsMast BrothersMerkensNestleOlive and SinclairOriginal Hawaiian Chocolate FactoryPatric ChocolatePetersRogue ChocolatierSacred ChocolateScharffen BergerSeeds of ChangeTazaTheoThe Oakland Chocolate CompanyVan LeerWilburWorld's Finest Chocolate
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
12/26/09 08:24:12
251 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Quote:Bob and Pam are the first to get something sustainable going commercially. They've been trying to grow cacao into a commercial crop in Hawaii since the
Wow, Bob and Pam must be really old... if they've been doing this since the 1850s! ;>)
updated by @ChocoFiles: 06/14/15 17:32:25
Michael Allured
@Michael Allured
12/24/09 13:36:58
2 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I believe that Santander by Compaia Nacional de Chocolates is tree to bar. All the ingredients are Colombian sourced and manufactured.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/24/09 09:47:09
1,692 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Julia - Michael is right, Original Hawaiian is not the only one though it is a very short list.At the moment, Dole's Waialua estate beans are being made into Chocolate by Guittard, so that counts as 100% American, though not tree to bar.There are at least two ChocolateLife members who live in Hawaii who are either actively doing commercial tree to bar or very close to going into commercial production. One of the companies is Garden Island Chocolate and the member is Koa Kahili. Check it out.But I agree that Bob and Pam are the first to get something sustainable going commercially. They've been trying to grow cacao into a commercial crop in Hawaii since the 1850s and just now starting to be successful at it.:: Clay
holycacao
@holycacao
12/24/09 05:26:42
38 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Outsourcing (supervising whatever) roasting may be a business decision- but it will never be a decision based on quality. If you don't own a roaster and decide it makes more financial sense to outsource rather than roast your own -it's hard to be considered bean to bar. Where is all the care and attention to detail that tcho claims to have with the rest of there process line. If TCHO spent less on marketing they could easily roast there own- their factory has cameras and 3d!
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/22/09 19:11:08
1,692 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Nina:There is some debate in the chocolate-making community about whether or not a company that roasts and grinds in rented facilities qualifies as a bean-to-bar chocolate maker and I have had these talks at length with Timothy (who I was first introduced to years before he started to TCHO), Jane, Louis (whom I've known since before they launched Wired), John (whom I met in Ecuador in 2003) and Rob.In the past (if you'd read all the discussions on this topic) you'd have noticed that I personally believe that a company that personally supervises every step of every batch qualifies. But that's the commitment. Every Step of Every Batch. As far as I am concerned, if TCHO does this then they qualify. But I do not make chocolate and there are some who do make chocolate who do not share my opinion.One of the challenges I have had with TCHO since the very beginning (and I wrote my first article, which at one time was included in your press materials) is that you have not done a good job of communicating what you've been doing any place other than tcho.com - and even there not so well at times. In the absence of concrete and good information, people have been drawing their own conclusions and running with them, to the detriment of TCHO.I've been in contact with Rob about meeting while I am in SF. I hope I have the chance to meet you, as well.:: Clay
nina luttinger
@nina luttinger
12/22/09 17:08:18
4 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Hi Clay;Thanks for your comment! But I'm confused why it matters where we do our roasting? We are actively and directly involved in each and every step of the chocolate making process:We buy our own cacao beans at source, partnering directly with farmers to guide cocoa bean fermentation and drying. Our TCHOSource program invests directly in infrastructure and training that helps farmers produce better quality beans. We take possession of those beans at the farm, and ship them to our roasting partner.To be clear, we don't outsource roasting any more than we buy liquor. All of our roasts are directly supervised by our R & D team. Prior to the roasts, we do numerous, meticulous test roasts in our SF lab to arrive at the perfect roasting profiles for each lot and for each of our flavors. Then we fly to our roasting partner and supervise each roast and grind according to our detailed instructions. Yes we do not own the equipment (although, really, in other cases, the banks probably own the equipment), but the roasts would not be conducted, nor come out any differently, than if we owned the equipment.One important benefit of roasting close to the growers is that we help the producing countries increase their share of the value-added (and capture more of the profit) in making chocolate, unlike many other bean-to-bar manufacturers who simply buy beans.In our SF factory, we make chocolate from our cocoa massbut we have participated directly in all of the work up to that point. In our factory, we perform all the refining, conching, tempering, molding, and packaging.I think the most essential part of being a bean-to-bar manufacturer is sourcing our own cacao beans and being directly involved with the farmers who grow themthen directly participating in every step of the chocolate-making process. To me, this seems to matter much more than who owns the equipment we roast on.We'd love to see you (and any other members) during the Fancy Food show! Thank you for hosting this discussion.
Michael Allured
@Michael Allured
12/22/09 11:29:58
2 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Globally they are not the only tree to bar. But the list would be very short indeed.
Julia S. Eskridge
@Julia S. Eskridge
12/22/09 09:54:59
1 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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A list of the ONLY...Tree to Bar.....is Original Hawaiian Chocolate Factory....the only 100% American Made Chocolate.... www.ohcf.us/
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/21/09 11:19:46
1,692 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Nina:Actually, there's some question in this forum and elsewhere as to whether or not TCHO qualifies.Are you now performing all of the manufacturing steps in your factory in SF?Some people (many actually) believe that outsourcing roasting and grinding, even if they are done under supervision, doesn't count. I personally am still undecided in this matter - I am just asking to get some more clarity on what the current state of the processes being performed on-pier, so to speak, are.:: ClayBTW - I will be in SF for the Winter Fancy Food Show and have been speaking to Rob K about stuff so I hope to visit and meet.
nina luttinger
@nina luttinger
12/21/09 10:58:21
4 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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you can TCHO to the US list of bean-to-bar manufacturers! thanks!
Daren Hayes
@Daren Hayes
12/17/09 17:22:07
1 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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HiStirs the Soul Raw Chocolate Co. in Portland OR. is " Bean to Bar"
Wolton W. Nisbeth
@Wolton W. Nisbeth
11/24/09 19:46:54
1 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I share your sintiments somewhat, I am very curious and is excited about who does whar myself.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
11/13/09 15:28:49
251 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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Here's my U.S. list:AmanoAmbrosiaAskinosieBittersweet CafeBlack Mountain ChocolateBlommerChocolate HavenCioccolatoDeVriesDe ZaanEscazu ChocolatesFearless ChocolatesFrescoGarden Island ChocolateGhirardelliGuittardJacques TorresKraft ??Lillie Belle FarmsLulu's ChocolateMarsMast BrothersMerkensNestleOlive and SinclairOriginal Hawaiian Chocolate FactoryPatric ChocolatePetersRogue ChocolatierSacred ChocolateScharffen BergerSeeds of ChangeTazaTheoVan LeerWilburWorld's Finest Chocolate
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
11/13/09 15:26:57
251 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I've attached 2 lists.1) A list from TCL of all the bean to bar makers. I've got a couple that aren't on the list above.2) A list of U.S. bean to bar makers only. (I just deleted everyone on the first list that isn't in the U.S.)Personally, I think it's easier to just maintain one list.Unfortunately, the TCL database still has very limited usefulness. Until the data can be printed, and until various reports can created from it, and queries made, it's not as useful as it could be. It's nice to have a definitive list in one place, though. I'd really like to be able to download all the data so that I have it for my own use, though (preferably in MS Access format).
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/13/09 06:32:54
1,692 posts

American, Bean-to-Bar Chocolate Makers: A Complete List


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I added the updated link to the Home Page. For convenience it is here too.
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