Forum Activity for @Rick Jordan

Rick Jordan
@Rick Jordan
07/19/10 18:24:38
5 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

thanks everyone, got it all worked out...Brian and Sean pulled through!gooooooooo Tomric!
Carlos Eichenberger
@Carlos Eichenberger
07/19/10 12:01:22
158 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


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I would like to suggest an entirely different approach. Try half-sheet pans and covers. Readily available, reusable, and inexpensive. Also fit a LOT of pieces per pan, already in their candy cups. Easily transportable in a rack or carrier.

Pierre (Pete) Trinque
@Pierre (Pete) Trinque
07/19/10 10:28:42
19 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


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I'd contact Brian. He will understand the urgency of your situation.Pierre
Kerry
@Kerry
07/18/10 20:28:37
288 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


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I like Sean very much - but he's not one I'd leave voicemail for - he rarely calls back!
Rick Jordan
@Rick Jordan
07/18/10 16:02:29
5 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


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Oh I got a real person, but Sean was on the other line so I left a voicemail.I like Tomric and I like Sean; I bought my Selmi from them, but I have had several times when I had asked questions via email with no response...I guess lost in the shuffle? I have to call and get someone on the phone.Brian is awesome, I met with him and he was the one who told me that Tomric had the packaging.Thanks for reply!
Kerry
@Kerry
07/18/10 15:54:37
288 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


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Tomric does have the bulk packaging - not sure why they aren't answering - I've always had a real person answer the phone.Brian is on this site and will probably see your request.
Rick Jordan
@Rick Jordan
07/18/10 14:58:07
5 posts

Wholesale Packaging...quick!


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am about to start selling to a casino company andam faced with bulk packaging. They do parties for 600-1000 people allof the time and the chef wants my pieces for his buffets. This first party is for1000 pcs.

The company who does my retail boxes (Sweet Packaging)does not have a bulk packaging system and I have found little resultsonline. Does anyone use or have seen a multi-layered box/tray system outthere?

Iwas told Tomric could get this together but they won't return calls.

Myreal problem is that I'm going out of town for 2 weeks and have about 1week to get something here.

HELP! and Thanks,
Rick
updated by @Rick Jordan: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Jennifer Thamer
@Jennifer Thamer
09/03/10 10:45:38
15 posts

Air bubbles!


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That's great! I just reread my post though and wanted to correct my typo -- of course the more viscous chocolate produces a medium (rather than thin) shell. Verhagen is right on with the star designation. So I've had experience with the 811NV Callebaut Dark. It has three drops (or stars) for liquidity. For me it produced a thicker shell than say, Valrhona's Equatoriale Noir, after it was tempered. Good luck with your chocolate adventures!
Julie Bolejack
@Julie Bolejack
09/03/10 07:55:23
8 posts

Air bubbles!


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What are you using to heat the molds - control the temp.
Julie Bolejack
@Julie Bolejack
09/03/10 07:54:59
8 posts

Air bubbles!


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Never mind, for some reason the response thread did not appear when I first responded...so, it seems you are getting some great advice.
Julie Bolejack
@Julie Bolejack
09/03/10 07:52:49
8 posts

Air bubbles!


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Do you vibrate the molds after spraying them?
updated by @Julie Bolejack: 06/28/15 06:33:45
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
09/02/10 06:00:17
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Thanks Jennifer - appreciate your input. We've gotten things all in order since I started this post and things are running smoothly!Brian
verhagen
@verhagen
09/02/10 04:55:31
4 posts

Air bubbles!


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Jennifer,Belgium Chocolate should not gives you problems, pay attention to the numbers of **** on the product, the best Belgium chocolate for moulds is chocolate with 4 ****For sharp right angels or points use a toothpick or cocktail stick before shaking/ vibrating.
Jennifer Thamer
@Jennifer Thamer
08/14/10 10:07:48
15 posts

Air bubbles!


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I've found that some molds are more prone to bubbles (like the ones with sharp right angles or points), especially if your using Belgian chocolate that is less viscous and produces a "medium" shell. With the real problem molds, the only technique that's worked for me is to paint a very thin layer into the mold and then mold. Even when I hold the mold on the vibrator for a long time, if it's a thicker chocolate, I'll still have trapped bubbles.
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/19/10 18:33:08
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Great advice -thanks Brad!
Brad Payton
@Brad Payton
07/19/10 16:30:04
13 posts

Air bubbles!


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For the higher detail mold I always heat my molds to the working temp of the chocolate. That way the chocolate is not cooling right when it hits the mold. It gives the vibrating table a better chance of getting the bubbles out.
verhagen
@verhagen
07/16/10 08:17:24
4 posts

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100% sure it will work , I have learned this in Belgium, let me know if it helps .Just finished a 2 year schooling in Belgium to become a chocolatier.look at the internetsite : www.callebaut.com (very interesting).Wim
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/16/10 07:36:23
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Thanks Wim - we do actually have a vibrating table - will also try the rubber hammer! I'm up for trying anything that will work!Brian
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/16/10 07:35:28
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Thanks Ruth, definitely will be checking that tonight and making some adjustments.Brian
verhagen
@verhagen
07/16/10 05:39:35
4 posts

Air bubbles!


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Dear Brian,If you don't have a machine for this than use a small rubber hammer it sound strange but it's all about the vibrations.Or vibrated it on a table. Look at www.callebaut.com / callebaut tv a perfect site.Kind RegardsWim Verhagen
Ruth Atkinson Kendrick
@Ruth Atkinson Kendrick
07/15/10 16:06:27
194 posts

Air bubbles!


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Check the viscosity of your chocolate. You should be using a fairly thin one on detailed molds.
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/15/10 14:49:01
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Thanks Andrea and Kerry -Yeah that's the issue mainly - with shells that have higher detail.Back at it tonight to do some work!Brian
Kerry
@Kerry
07/15/10 14:27:20
288 posts

Air bubbles!


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Use a small skewer into each cone to get the bubbles out of the tip.Shells made ahead have never been a problem - and usually come out shinier for the delay.
Andrea B
@Andrea B
07/15/10 14:15:08
92 posts

Air bubbles!


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I haven't found a 100% method of getting rid of air bubbles. It is always the molds with the most detail that give me an issues. I hit them on the table as other people here have already described and sometimes use a vibrating table as well. Depending on how many molds you are filling you can buy a cheapo dental vibrating table on Ebay and see if it works for you. I fill my molds by hand and have started to move the mold back and forth as I am filling it - not exactly shaking it but the chocolate is in its most liquid state and I think this has helped move the choclate into the trouble spots while pushing the air out. There are always one or two pieces that still have an air bubble. I have also given up on a few molds that never seem to work (like the slanted cone shape - nothing has ever worked to get chocolate at the point of the cone...)I have stored molds that have chocolate in them in a cool, dry place until I am ready to fill them and cap them and have not had any problems. Certainly until the next day shouldn't be an issue. I think a lot of people (like me) will fill a bunch of molds one day, making fillings and fill the next day and cap the day after that. This is especially true for me if I am making a big variety of flavors at once.Andrea
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/15/10 11:59:34
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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hahah...Nice...we're totally going to have a rustic collection too!
Shane Essary
@Shane Essary
07/15/10 11:56:14
3 posts

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It's "rustic"! :)
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/15/10 11:38:49
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Hi Shane,We do use a vibrating table as well as the good ol' fashioned bang-em-on-the-table method but still have a few issues. Maybe I'm looking for something that's really hard to get at the artisan level and that's 0 air bubbles! :)Brian
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/15/10 11:37:06
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Hi David - Thanks for replying.We do use pre-made shells for our caramels but the truffles we prefer to use molded shells. Interesting concept about the vacuum though. Thanks for the link too!Brian
Shane Essary
@Shane Essary
07/15/10 11:23:07
3 posts

Air bubbles!


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I feel your pain. I hand paintbrush each mold (several coats each) to avoid it, but it's extremely time consuming. You can build a shaker/vibrating table that may help, as well. At school, we'd rap the mold against the table a few times to try and dislodge bubbles. I personally prefer the time consuming method as it allows me to really control the thickness of the walls, but that's just me and I'd certainly change my method if I were working on a commercial scale.
David Lubertozzi
@David Lubertozzi
07/15/10 11:08:52
2 posts

Air bubbles!


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One way to get air bubbles out of a molded substance is by putting the filled mold in a vacuum chamber while the substance is still molten and pulling a vacuum on it. Haven't tried it myself with chocolate though...The big companies make a huge variety of premade shells, and they are sold by the zillions to pastry chefs and restaurants worldwide for later filling. Here's 101 from Uster: http://www.auiswisscatalogue.com/1-VESL.html
Lindsay Truffler
@Lindsay Truffler
07/15/10 10:02:43
23 posts

Air bubbles!


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Hello!

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the least amount of air bubbles possible when doing molded (polycarbonate) molding?

Right now, we do our airbrushing, let that sit for awhile (30-60 minutes, sometimes longer) and fill the molds. We definitely have better luck on molds that are flatter on the inside, if that makes sense but the ones that have a design in them seem to give us some problems.

I'm wondering if we might be able to do things like thin out the chocolate with cocoa butter (prior to tempering), or maybe even use a paint brush very lightly to 'push' the chocolate into the corners. It's not all corners.

Also - does anyone make just shells ahead of time? You know like make shells, and just store them in something like a humidity controlled, cooled unit until maybe the next day for filling and capping?

Thanks in advance for any input!

Brian

updated by @Lindsay Truffler: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Brent Peters
@Brent Peters
07/20/10 07:13:37
7 posts

Data on chocolate companies and the potential growth


Posted in: Chocolate Education

I know there is a pretty extensive list of bean to bar makers somewhere here on TCL. As far as market segment, I would think it will be difficult to get a grasp with most companies being small and privately held and most relatively new. Most of the market studies rely on reporting by publicly held companies to attain the segmentation numbers. I would recommend inquiring with a market research firm on commissioning a study tailorerd to your needs.David MasonBlack Mountain Chocolate
Andal Balu
@Andal Balu
07/14/10 21:35:28
16 posts

Data on chocolate companies and the potential growth


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Hi all,

Can any of you help me to get the data on how many companies are making bean to bar now. Is there any report that talks about the bean to bar in terms of market segment.
Thanks!

Andal Balu
cocoatown.com

updated by @Andal Balu: 04/20/15 13:04:00
Wendy Buckner
@Wendy Buckner
08/15/10 21:44:17
35 posts

compressed air?


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Oooo...That is a smart suggestion! Nice thinking!
F Schenstead
@F Schenstead
08/15/10 15:42:51
3 posts

compressed air?


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What I have been using are hand pump plastic containers, that you fill with oil (olive oil) pump several times and used to replace commercial cans of pam or the likes in my muffin baking, ect. These pump plastic cans work well pumped several times with nothing in them for chocolate work, no running out, no compressors, nothing except the same air in your surroundings, easy to control temps that way as well.
Kerry
@Kerry
07/14/10 16:52:19
288 posts

compressed air?


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You can put an airbrush on your compressor and use it to blow only air, But ramp back the PSI.
Michael Long
@Michael Long
07/13/10 21:52:57
1 posts

compressed air?


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I am so glad someone asked this question. Being a Newbie I often wondered what kind of Compressed Air to use, I have an Air compressor, But that would blow the chocolate into next week. And I was thinking about the computer canned Air. But now I see I better get some regular baking canned air. Or something a long those lines. So actually I answered my own question.
Robyn Dochterman
@Robyn Dochterman
07/13/10 18:41:17
23 posts

compressed air?


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Wow. I just fixed my speakers and watched this video. It's exactly what I was thinking of. Weird. I had no idea this was shown at WPF. I better figure out how to attend next year!
Kerry
@Kerry
07/13/10 17:42:49
288 posts

compressed air?


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I was looking at the can used to clean the computer keyboard at work, first time I've noticed the bitterant label on one. Of course I'm miles from home and my chef rubber can is there. I saw that demo and wanted to start playing with it.
Robyn Dochterman
@Robyn Dochterman
07/13/10 15:51:40
23 posts

compressed air?


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Thank you, Clay. I should have thought of Chef Rubber!
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
07/13/10 13:18:58
1,689 posts

compressed air?


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Yes, a bitterant will negatively affect the taste of the chocolate.Interestingly, David Funaro of Godiva d emonstrated just such a technique at the recent World Pastry Forum in Phoenix. Although it's not a part of this video he did discuss his experiences using compressed air with a bitterant added and says to stay away.There are several places where you can get cans of compressed air that do not have added bitterant. One of them is Chef Rubber.
Robyn Dochterman
@Robyn Dochterman
07/13/10 10:44:06
23 posts

compressed air?


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Hi folks. I'd like to do some experimenting with decorating molded chocolates. Specifically, I'm thinking of putting a drop of colored cocoa butter in the bottom of a mold, and then hitting it with a shot of canned, compressed air to drive it across the cavity.

The can I just saw said it included a "bitterant" to dissuade kids from inhaling it. Anyone know if the bitterant will ruin the taste of the chocolate?

Would something using carbon dioxide cartridges be a better choice? (as you've probably guessed, I do not current have an air compressor, or I'd just be using that). Thanks for suggestions, ideas, thoughts!

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