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Paul John Kearins
@Paul John Kearins
06/09/12 13:25:51
46 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I think the laws are different in The USA but I have made chem free ganaches even with fresh fruit included in the recipe and they keep a really long time ... but they did have high levels of alcohol ( my Cointreau ganache is one third alcohol with fresh pureed oranges) and I don't think that that is permitted stateside.

There is such a thing as a water ganache which I have made, maybe that with butter added would deceive the taste buds whilst lengthening the shelf life? I believe shrinkage and air pockets are the main issue re mould growth and extra fat will lessen the effects of drying out.

Or as you suggested , let them open up a can of campbell's oops, sorry a box of Godiva :)
Sadruddin Abdullah
@Sadruddin Abdullah
06/09/12 12:56:15
17 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


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Edward

I just got F.C. #3. It answers my questions and much, much, more. Now off to learn more about chocolate, "The Food of the Gods"

Thank you very much

Bill Tice
@Bill Tice
06/09/12 12:03:30
10 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


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If they want 6 months, have them buy Godiva. Those things are the Twinkie's of chocolate.

Sadruddin Abdullah
@Sadruddin Abdullah
06/04/12 06:51:21
17 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


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Edward

I've located F.C. #3. I think it will provide me with the information I need. Thank you very much for sharing. You have been very helpful.

Edward J
@Edward J
06/04/12 00:28:17
51 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


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When wine ages, the flavour improves. When chocolate and cream/liquids ages, the flavour does not improve. There are various sugars that you can incorporate in your recipie to greatly extend shelf life (See Wybauw's F.C.#3) that probably will give you great shelf life, but you are adding a lot of weird sugars.

Then there are natural sugar rich confections like Italian nougat, pate de fruits or caramel that might give you 6 mths shelf life. Nut based ones too, but nuts tend to go rancid within 6 mths

You can, however succesfully freeze bon-bons and pralines, with a freezer shelf life maximum of 6 mths. It's actually very simple: Vacuum pack the items, refrigerate for 24 hours, then freeze. To thaw, refrigerate for 24 hours, then at room temp for 24 hours, then open the package.

Hope this helps

Sadruddin Abdullah
@Sadruddin Abdullah
06/03/12 15:40:21
17 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

ANDREA,
You are absolutely right, I do not have to accept every customer. I wanted to make an effort to understand the possibilities. This customer wants the look of crafted chocolates but is obviously willing to compromise on the freshness based on the nature of the request.
My goal is to understand my options in this regard. What preservatives do the members have experience with, how long will these ingredients extend the shelf life, etc.

Thanks Andrea
Andrea B
@Andrea B
06/03/12 14:59:51
92 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


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I am not sure you can extend the shelf life of a ganache-filled chocolate to 6 months. If you could it would require serious chemicals/preservatives. Why does this customer require a 6 month shelf life? I think most people who make chocolates on a small scale want them as fresh and as natural as possible. This may not be the customer for you (I know it is a novel idea, but you don't have to accept every customer that comes along). Good luck.

Sadruddin Abdullah
@Sadruddin Abdullah
06/03/12 14:10:33
17 posts

Shelf Life of Chocolates


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have a small chocolate business where I produce hand crafted, ganache filled chocolates with a three week shelf life. I have a customer that is requiring a 6 month shelf life. What is the best ingredient to use, in what amounts should I use it and where can I purchase it.


updated by @Sadruddin Abdullah: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Rick Kiyak-Boughton
@Rick Kiyak-Boughton
06/11/12 17:27:04
2 posts

wrapping chocolate


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Greetings, We have been in the biz for 10 years and never used plastic we heat seal 100% plant cellulose bags. The only problem we ever had was they can become unstable if they are shipped in VERY cold weather. Ice packs never bothered them but freezing temps can. Any guestions?. You can get bags in almost any size as well as sheets. Rick ,Green Goddess Organic Chocolates.

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
06/11/12 12:54:54
32 posts

wrapping chocolate


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as long as it is air tight and food safe you can use anything to the imagination.

Erin
@Erin
06/04/12 20:32:22
30 posts

wrapping chocolate


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Well, it will not look different because I am already using the same mold and a very similar bag with a sticker.

Tupaemanaia Steve Brown
@Tupaemanaia Steve Brown
06/03/12 14:50:25
3 posts

wrapping chocolate


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we just wrapped ours in plastic and will put a sticky label on

Christine de Massis
@Christine de Massis
06/03/12 09:53:42
12 posts

wrapping chocolate


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Hello everyone...do you guys think i can wrap my chocolate bars using some kind of celofane paper, wrap tightly and then put a sticker on? the thing is I want something different and creative! let me know what your thoughts are.


updated by @Christine de Massis: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
06/06/12 09:54:50
55 posts

Refining/conching temperatures.


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Paul, You need to experiment! Can I suggest that you aim to start off at around 60C and gradually raise it to perhaps 65 to 68C over the first day or however long you are conching at. As usual there probably isn't a "right" and "wrong" - it is what works in your conditions with your beans. Too high and you may negatively affect the flavour and too low and you may not drive off the bitterness.

Duffy

Paul Johnson
@Paul Johnson
06/01/12 11:38:06
7 posts

Refining/conching temperatures.


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am making chocolate in Costa Rica from tree to bar. We recently received the Melager from CocoaTown which has speed control to better manage the refining and conching temperatures. Does anyone have any tips on what temperature ranges the chocolate should be within to have the best overall flavor?


updated by @Paul Johnson: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Sebastian
@Sebastian
05/30/12 04:22:54
754 posts

Inclusion ratio in chocolate bar manufacturing


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No hard and fast rules of thumb. often inclusions will be in the 7-15% range (ie if you've got a 100g bar, you'll have 85-93g of chocolate). One thing you can try to do is pre-warm the inclusions to the temperature of your tempered chocolate to help prevent the cooling effect you're seeing on your chocolate as a result of the cold inclusions taking the heat out of the chocolate, resulting in it's solidifying prematurely. take care not to over warm them as doing so will detemper your chocolate.

Arthur Zukayev
@Arthur Zukayev
05/30/12 03:26:51
4 posts

Inclusion ratio in chocolate bar manufacturing


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Hello everyone.

Interesting thing I came across- what is the ratio of inclusions(size of inclusions also) to put in a chocolate bar?

Thing is- we were making bars last year and this order will repeat this year and we are trying to find some answers as we had plenty of problems last year making bars with inclusions in a ratio of 2:1. It was 80g of Belgian milk chocolate and 40 grams of inclusions. the thickness of a bar was 5mm and it was almost impossible to vibrate the bar evenly over the surface are (bardimensions120x180mm) inclusion size was up to 15mm.

The problem we came across was that the 'mix' of chocolate and inclusions was getting hard in 3 minutes, which had a major impact on our speed of the line. therefore the batch size could only be limited, since the vibration was a problem as well.

Basically this is a short story, but the question really is: What is the science behind the ratio of inclusions and chocolate for a chocolate bar and/or for spinning?

Best Regards, Arthur


updated by @Arthur Zukayev: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Brian Begun
@Brian Begun
01/23/13 17:43:15
20 posts

a chocolatier's inventory tracking system


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Hi Kalibri,

I'm new to the forum, and new to the chocolate business. I'm in the process of starting my own. I also am looking to an inventory tracking system to keep track of my molds. I'm investingating barcode management systems like WASP. Their packages include: barcode scanners, printers and database management tools. Some of the features are unnecessary for my business, but I think for the most part they could work. Here's their website:

http://www.waspbarcode.com/

Hope that helps.

Best,

Brian

Kalibri Anne
@Kalibri Anne
05/29/12 17:49:57
5 posts

a chocolatier's inventory tracking system


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Hello! I am looking for recommendations of a software or even a system of tracking inventory for a small but very exploratory artisan chocolate business (wholesells and direct sells product)? What are other chocolate business' using? Thanks


updated by @Kalibri Anne: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Bill Tice
@Bill Tice
06/12/12 15:13:22
10 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

That's the best one yet!


updated by @Bill Tice: 06/19/15 07:03:51
Ramon Recalde
@Ramon Recalde
06/12/12 08:41:03
8 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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FYI for those playing trivia pursuit: 'truffle' derives from the Latin wordtuber, meaning "swelling" or "lump."

There is nothing sweeter thantheinnocence andquick-smarts of a child: I was making some truffles from left over ganache, and my five year old son said: " Wow Daddy, those are some nice looking "lumps" of chocolate...."

Bill Tice
@Bill Tice
06/09/12 11:58:30
10 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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That is what I use too. I scoop and weigh each ganache. I shoot for 5/8 oz for each and hit about 98% of the time. When they are enrobed each is 1 oz. Thanks for your input.

Paul John Kearins
@Paul John Kearins
06/09/12 04:55:52
46 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

I found a small ice cream scoop helpful when scooping 30lbs of ganache ! It became occupational therapy at one point.... You had to get in the zone tho or you'd go insane! :)
adam wilson
@adam wilson
06/09/12 01:16:01
1 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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When I first started making truffles, I was doing the roll by hand method. Now when I have to make 1000 truffles per batch, I find the molds are a better commercial approach. They do look awfully close to bonbons. I even thought about changing the name to bonbons, but I still give them a little roll in some powder before packaging so Im sticking with it for now. I have actually seen some molds out there that give the textured, hand-rolled apperance.

Paul John Kearins
@Paul John Kearins
06/06/12 06:52:25
46 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

Awesome Clay.... You nailed it .
Paul John Kearins
@Paul John Kearins
06/06/12 06:43:01
46 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

Being Dutch , the truffle is divided into two categories: ganache ( chocoladetruffels) and fresh cream ( slagroomtruffels) . There are recipe variations on these basic types.The ball shaped globe I see elsewhere are not so prevalent in the Netherlands and the understanding of truffle is that the form is "truffle like" and if you have seen a real truffle dug up out of the ground it looks pretty rough and dirty hence the classic coarse cocoa-dusted exterior of this confection.A ganache truffle is classically ( in my education at least) scooped and tossed in cocoa powder.A fresh cream truffle is classically whipped cream with a large proportion of sugar and fresh vanilla , scooped , frozen and dipped in untempered chocolate, then tossed in cocoa powder.Of course , in the business we need some sort of preservation so the ganache has been dipped in chocolate to extend shelf life and the cream truffle has been restructured as a very creamy butter cream to extend the life of that... Progress?! I'm not sure if I agree , but we do what we do and evolution is unavoidable...... So in short , truffle> ganache> scooped roughly> cocoa powder.
Paul John Kearins
@Paul John Kearins
06/06/12 06:30:39
46 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

It drives me crazy too! Ha! It's as if there is no other definition any more
rene
@rene
06/04/12 11:34:19
23 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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well put Clay :)

Bill Tice
@Bill Tice
06/03/12 20:23:20
10 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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If you want to know something about chocolate go to the source! Thank you Clay. I will be forwarding this information along with the information from the International Chocolate Contest to the operator of the show and competition I entered. Competition is good but judging should be on a level field. ]

Thank everyone who answered my question.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
06/03/12 11:53:54
1,682 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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In a word, yes.

The definition of truffle is not ingredient dependent on that level. It's the form of the finished piece.

Jonathan Walpole
@Jonathan Walpole
06/03/12 11:42:32
6 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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I have always understood a truffle to be a ganache of chocolate, fat and flavor. If it has glucose syrup or other stabilizers is it still considered a truffle?

Jeffray D. Gardner
@Jeffray D. Gardner
06/03/12 10:45:13
13 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

Now that is what I call a definition of all definitions! Thorough and articulate....well done Clay (as per usual :)

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
06/03/12 10:05:26
1,682 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


Posted in: Opinion

The word truffle, as it applies to a chocolate confection, traditionally refers to confections that look like the truffles (fungus) dug from the ground - irregularly shaped and very often covered with cocoa powder. Traditional truffle centers are made by hand-rolling usually fairly dense ganaches (high chocolate to liquid ratio) and not worrying at all about whether they are perfectly regularly shaped. Traditional truffles are sometimes referred to astruffe nature or natural truffle because of that resemblance.

Depending on how long the truffle needed to last (and the maker's thoughts about texture), a truffle may be covered (mechanically enrobed or hand dipped) with chocolate. Further embellishment may come in the form of additions or alternatives to the cocoa powder coating - green tea powder is common in Japan, shredded coconut, and nuts in one form or another are also common; any these may be used with or without the chocolate covering.

The hand formed truffle is contrasted with two other production methods:

A) Slabbed (usually ganache, but may be layered with pate de fruit, caramel, or other element) pieces that are then enrobed and may be further decorated. A slabbed ganache that is covered in a powder or left uncovered is sometimes called a pav (maybe referring to the gem cut, or to a paving stone).

B) Shell-molded pieces.

The important technical difference between slabbed and shell-molded pieces is that in a slabbed piece the center forms the support for the chocolate shell; in a shell-molded piece, the shell forms the container for the center, which tends to be softer than that of a slabbed piece.

I use the word bonbon (from the French, colloquially "good good") to refer to slabbed and shell molded pieces. I don't use the word praline (which I believe is Belgian in origin - as contrasted withpralin, which refers to caramelized nuts and is French) because it is already so overloaded with meanings. I use truffle to refer to a truffe nature.

Bonbon, praline, and truffle have all been conflated over time and are generally used interchangeably though technically, at least in my mind, they refer to different final forms based on the method of production.

PS. I useFrench (aka southern European), Belgian (aka northern European), American, and Nouvelle American (or nouveau French) to refer to different generalized approaches to flavor in ganaches and centers, not to physical styles of work.

Edward J
@Edward J
06/02/12 20:53:20
51 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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My personal definition?

Ganache that is hand rolled into balls and then enrobed with couverture. Sky's the limit as far as surface decoration is concerned, but no piped in fillings into molded shells.

Bill Tice
@Bill Tice
05/30/12 15:56:27
10 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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That is my definition also. This contest judged molded and filled Bonbons, Pralines and Truffles in the same category as "Traditional" and "Non-Traditional" Truffles. I will be contacting the contest administrator with some suggestions.

antonino allegra
@antonino allegra
05/30/12 12:30:39
143 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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We call it "classic" truffles, made with chocolate +cream+ butter, rolled in tempered chocolate and then in cocoa powder.

We distingue between truffles and pralines by the first being round, piped and rolled by hand, the second being moulded items with a filling...

Erin Calvo-Bacci
@Erin Calvo-Bacci
05/30/12 09:42:52
1 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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We make traditional truffles and then cover them in tempered chocolate for exactly the reasons Jeffray mentioned; they will have a shorter shelf life if they're not protected. The average consumer here thinks of the mass produced so called "truffles" as what a truffle is. That drives me nuts!!!!!

Jeffray D. Gardner
@Jeffray D. Gardner
05/29/12 23:46:24
13 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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Hi Bill,

A traditional confectionary "truffle" is best described as a ganache with no tempered chocolate involved. A ganache is simply chocolate and cream. The ganachecan be rolled in a variety of coatings including cocoa powderor diced or finely chopped nuts/seeds.Since the outer layer of ganache is not covered or protected with tempered chocolate the shelf life is very short (around 2 weeks). They will also need to be refridgerated, preferablycovered with plastic wrap.

Hope this helps.

Jeffray D. Gardner

Marsatta

Bill Tice
@Bill Tice
05/29/12 02:18:23
10 posts

What is a "Traditional Chocolate Truffle"?


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I have a dilemma. I entered what I thought was a "Truffle" contest and the winners were what I consider "Bonbons". I remember some time ago on the old Discover Chocolate site Clay defined several types of Truffle. I think they were: French, American, Nouvelle American. I also posted this question: What is a "Traditional Truffle" on the Ecole Chocolat Graduate forum. There seems to be a wide and subjective definition. What is yours?


updated by @Bill Tice: 04/20/15 06:40:22
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