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Brady
@Brady
07/04/08 08:13:09
42 posts

To conche or not to conche?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I spoke with Claudio Corallo's son at the F.F. Show in NY. He talked about not conching. Because his dad is an agronomist and they control every step of the process from growing the trees they believe their cocoa does not need conching. Based on their reasoning that conching dispells the valued flavors of the cocoa and if treated properly they would not have a need to dispell any off flavors since their wouldn't be any. Another process he talked about was drying. The environment is too rainy on Sao Tome so they do not sun dry. They created their own heated drying table.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
07/04/08 08:01:37
251 posts

To conche or not to conche?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I didn't like the texture of the Taza 70% bar. It was chalky and crumbly and way too grainy, like white sugar grains. I also didn't like the taste very much, because it was really strong on red wine / red fruit. But I don't really prefer red wine/ red fruit flavor anyway. The flavor seemed a little "wild" too.I rated it 3 out of 10.I guess I like the European style. To conche or not to conche? I say, by all means, conche!
Casey
@Casey
04/18/08 12:00:18
54 posts

To conche or not to conche?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

In the European and North American markets not many make chocolate with no conche, in what could be loosely termed the Mexican vs. European style. Here are two, Claudio Corallo and Taza.Here are a couple of articles that introduce you to what these makers do, and how it is different. Taza on The Chocolate Note (with review,) and Corallo in der SpiegalWhat are your opinions about these chocolates? Have you tried them, and are you interested in this style, or mainly European style chocolate?
updated by @Casey: 04/10/15 19:33:28
Hans
@Hans
06/22/08 17:14:58
14 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

G&B's foil lined paper? My bars have been flimsy foil, with the G&B's logo all over, which is nice but....uh, necessary? Anyway, finally someone who thinks the Neuhaus Occumare (Two C or not two C? That is the question!) is disappointing. What's up with texture in all those Neuhaus bars anyway? Feels more like mousse or ganache than pure chocolate.The worst is Amedei and their tiny 5g square origin kit. Every time I bought some the chocolate was flat and stale, tasting like paper. If they can't invest into 50g bars, then please, please, please invest in better packaging. I hate throwing away money.
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
06/19/08 07:29:17
251 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

The Neuhaus Occumare bar had a very durable inner wrapper of tan foil lined paper. I was impressed that it was the most durable I've ever seen. I didn't care for the ribbon tied cardboard "book" outer wrapper, though. (And I was really disappointed by the chocolate.)Green and Black's gold foil lined paper is also quite durable and nice looking.I, too, agree that the Dolfin tobacco pouch is the most functional package I've seen, plus it's water proof! It's kind of funky, though, since it's so different from all others. It seems somewhat plebeian compared to other fancier packages.
Hans
@Hans
06/18/08 09:56:17
14 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

I think the best foil wrapper is used by Scharffen Berger. It's thick and large, making re-wrapping multiple times a breeze. In fact, you can even reuse those durable foil wrappers for other foods. Patric and Amano also have nicely thick foil, which is great.Askinosie's mold is pretty stylish, I agree, and I also like Chocovic's mold.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
05/17/08 11:09:46
1,689 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

I agree with Cybele that Dolfin's tobacco pouch (and it is a real tobacco pouch by the way with a different paper insert, I asked the Poncelet brothers about this) is the most practical chocolate package in the world today. What I don't like, as a consumer, is the amount of plastic it uses.I would like Colin Gasko's packaging a lot more if the tab that closed the outer paper wrapper was easier to extract without the risk of damaging it. I like Askinosie's packaging a great deal (disclaimer: I helped a little bit on it), but I don't like the fact that I need to rip the top off the bag to get at the bar inside and there's no easy way to close the bag once opened. The mold for the Askinosie bars is brilliant.
cybele
@cybele
05/16/08 15:46:14
37 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

I think the best package design I've seen so far for premium bars is Dolfin's "tobacco pouch". I agree that those tissue-paper thin foils actually invite more problems than they solve.Amano's seems to be a nice blend of high quality foil plus the box. Bonnat doesn't use very thick foil and the little sleeve doesn't do much to protect the bar either.
sabrina hicks
@sabrina hicks
05/16/08 10:07:00
6 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

What I don't like about Pralus wrapping is that every time we get a box in, at least a few are no longer sealed! With all the layers they use, you'd think they would use a glue that kept those layers together.
Brady
@Brady
04/11/08 20:07:05
42 posts

Pralus packaging


Posted in: Opinion

Is anybody annoyed with Pralus's packaging? I like bars that can be rewrapped without having to get a ziploc bag or more foil. Pralus used to use a clear plastic bag. It was thick, durable and could be folded over and resealed to store a partially eaten bar. The packaging they changed to a while ago is a foil wrap with paper on the outside. I understand foil and paper is a good choice and possibly the plastic wrapper they used before could have imparted a slight odor that might mask the flavors of the chocolate. My problem is the foil they use now is too thin, it tears easily (especially at the corners if you are not careful) and makes it difficult to rewrap using the same foil. Making matters worse, they use an adhesive on the paper that attaches to the foil. This makes it almost impossible to to open the bar without tearing the foil from one end to the other of the bar. The paper wrapper simply can't be folded nicely around the bar either once it is opend. Domori uses a sealed plastic wrap (again the risk of an unneccessary odor infecting the bar, even if ever so slightly) inside the box, but you can easily fold the wrapper over the end of the bar and slide it in the box without taping it if you don't plan to store it for too long. Ideally, I like the foil wrappers that Valhrona and Cluizel use. They seem to be thicker, aren't adhered to other packaging with glue and can be refolded and placed back in the box for longer term storage. Any thoughts?
updated by @Brady: 04/10/15 18:44:53
Eric G
@Eric G
01/20/10 14:06:53
4 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Hi Samantha,Thanks for your reply, I found your posts to be quite clear and very informative. i wasn't challenging your opinion i just found two contradictory posts and was trying to find more info. The cacao is being sundried in a marquesina. So I am going to try conching for longer to try and lessen the acidity. Also, this growers association sent a sample to a Swiss lab and the results were high bitterness, highly sour and moderatly astringent. I am continuing to play with fermentacion lengths and methods. Thanks again for your posts and comments.Cheers,Eric
Eric G
@Eric G
01/19/10 14:23:39
4 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I am working in Vinces, Ecuador and am having problems with high acidity in the licor samples I am making. While searching for info i have found in Samanthas post that:Acetic acid is produced by bacteria belonging to the Acetobacteraceae family. These bacteria dominate the second (aerobic) phase of fermentation. Acetic acid production peaks about 72 hours after fermentation begins [5], and it has been noted that diffusion of acetic acid through the whole bean is slow [6].However, it's quite common for Criollo cocoa beans to be fermented for less than 72 hours - sometimes for only 48 hours. Hence, a short fermentation time typically produces less acidic beans than a longer fermentation. (A short fermentation also has major implications relating to taste and flavour development, as mentioned under the "mild flavour" heading above).However Ive also found in Brady's attachment that:Acidity (overly) Short fermentation Cocoa grown from highly acidic soils.So, one post says short fermentation period=overly acidicwhile the other says a short fermentation time typically produces less acidic beans than a longer fermentation.If anyone can help clarify, or suggest other possible causes of, and solutions to highly acidic licor I'd greatly appreciate it.Cheers,Eric
James Cary
@James Cary
11/24/08 00:15:13
32 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Thanks. For some reason, I was also thinking that depending on how the sucrose is obtained it might have a different flavor (cane, beets, etc).Why is there no organic/Fair Trade refined white sugar? Is it just too costly for organic, Fair Trade companies to make refined white sugar?
James Cary
@James Cary
11/23/08 01:33:37
32 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Also, are you considering flavor in non-100% chocolate? Does sugar contain some flavor of its own?
James Cary
@James Cary
11/21/08 16:59:41
32 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Thank you, Brady and Samantha for putting together a great set of information regarding the flavors of chocolate. This information was very enlightening.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
10/23/08 07:17:48
1,689 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I also added a laundry list of pyrazines and flavor chemicals that contribute to burnt sugar, caramel, and maple notes in a related post in the NerdZone group.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
10/23/08 06:28:37
1,689 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Here is a collection of aromas found in wines and the chemicals that contribute to the flavors - and why.
Brady
@Brady
10/22/08 20:08:07
42 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Samantha, Thank you for the time you spent sharing this great information. I hope many others read it too. This is what I was looking for with this post. Brady
Brady
@Brady
06/14/08 20:41:15
42 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Hans: Thanks for the book recommendation. I've have seen this book online while doing other searches but never actually used it. I looked it up today and it is available at two libraries near me. I hope to have it in my hands in the next week.
Hans
@Hans
06/12/08 12:15:36
14 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Hey Brady,I just read your guide, and I thought it was really good. Have you checked out the book Cocoa (4th edition) by Wood and Lass? It has lots of useful information, especially about the varieties and differences between artificial drying methods, which affect chocolate flavor in a number of ways.
Brady
@Brady
06/09/08 20:48:05
42 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Theo BromaThanks for the link to FCIA. I hadn't seen their site before last week. I hear now that they will be at the Fancy Food Show in NY this month.Brady
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
06/07/08 11:02:45
251 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Brady,I just found an article about this topic called " Five Facets of Fine Chocolate ". This seems to be pretty much the same thing that you were saying, only expanded a little. It makes sense to me. Your point 3 would be their "Chocolatier's Technical Expertise". I'm going to study it more and learn what I can.

ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
06/07/08 11:00:38
251 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

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ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
06/06/08 15:12:05
251 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Brady,I'd like to comment on part of what you said, "3. styles of the individual chocolate maker. ...As I'm sure you are aware, many chocolate makers have a trademark flavor that you can identify in any one of their bars and say this is Pralus, or this is Amedei, no matter which bar you pick up."This is exactly along the lines of my interest. I'm mainly on here because I'm on a quest. Simply put-- I'm looking for the chocolates that I like best. Gathering information about the style of each maker would help further this objective. I already do it in my head, with reference to the notes in my database, anyway. I think that a great start would be a simple table similar to the one you've already done. Just put the maker in the left column and note common characteristics in the right column. We'd want to know if the company is Bean-to-bar or a Fondeur.In fact, if I had the notes I could easily track this in my own Access database. I just don't have the expertise or the depth of experience to make authoritative statements so I leave that to others with more credentials.To get the ball rolling I'm going to start another thread on this very topic...So start posting any notes and observations at " Chocolate Maker Trademark styles ".
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
06/06/08 07:08:42
1,689 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Brady:At the moment, I don't know that there is an easy way. I will take a look at the file and experiment with a few tools. I think that what needs to happen is to edit the document in an HTML/Rich Text editor, then cut and paste the code. As I say, I will experiment.:: Clay
Brady
@Brady
06/05/08 21:04:38
42 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Theobroma- Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad someone read it. If you have anything to add or change, please post it and I'll update the document. I wanted to add to my original post that there are actually three ideas I find useful when trying to understand flavors and experiences. 1. the inherent regional characteristics of cacao 2. harvesting and post harvesting practices (found in the notes I posted) 3. styles of the individual chocolate maker. It's #3 that I didn't mention in my original post. As I'm sure you are aware, many chocolate makers have a trademark flavor that you can identify in any one of their bars and say this is Pralus, or this is Amedei, no matter which bar you pick up. We may be starting another database here that tries to examine the styles of individual makers and interpret that style in some way. I think it will be difficult to do but worth the effort. Most companies aren't going to give away too many secrets though. Brady
ChocoFiles
@ChocoFiles
06/04/08 15:37:49
251 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Brady,Your notes are Excellent and very helpful! Good job!!
Brady
@Brady
04/11/08 19:01:51
42 posts

notes on flavor


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Genetics, terroir, fermentation and drying along with other post harvesting and processing stages can all play a role in the flavor of the chocolate we eat. Trying to understand why I experience what I am experiencing is a part of the enjoyment for me and also has enabled me to appreciate the skill of the makers of these chocolate bars. I was hoping this forum could improve on my "Notes on Flavor". It is a table that lists a flavor or mouthfeel with a possible explanation. There are definitely genetic and regional differences in cacao. That is really a bit more than I am addressing. I refer to notes by Peter Rot and Karen Hochman on thenibble.com ( http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/main/chocolate/flavors-2.asp ) for those descriptions of regional characteristics.Between that type of list and the type of list I started it should be a good way to understand the flavors and experiences we have with the chocolate we eat. Any help correcting or adding to my notes on flavor is the idea behind this discussion. Also, if any one has any other ideas on understanding how flavors and mouthfeels are developed in single origin chocolate or blended chocolate it would be interesting to hear.(Clay: What is the best way to add my file to the body of the discussion? It would be great if it could be viewed without having to open it as an attachment.)
updated by @Brady: 04/10/15 18:08:45
Evert-Jan De Kort (Choqoa.com)
@Evert-Jan De Kort (Choqoa.com)
10/26/09 18:09:58
11 posts

Chocolate documentaries


Posted in: News & New Product Press (Read-Only)

Here also another documentary endorsed by Belcolade, and featuring its ambassador chocolatier Dominique Persoone. http://www.dechocoladeroute.be/index.asp?taal=en
Casey
@Casey
10/26/09 10:04:17
54 posts

Chocolate documentaries


Posted in: News & New Product Press (Read-Only)

Updated the list to include the in progress film Chocolate, which features Chlo Doutre-Roussel, Frederick Schilling, and Diego Badar.From the website:"Chocolate will be an educational tool for farmers, producers and consumers to realize the power of their role in trade cycles. Chocolate will explore social entrepreneurship as a self-fulfilling cycle which rewards the grower, the producer and the consumer. Sourcing sustainably-farmed organic growers creates better food products, which grosses higher profits and creates better farming conditions which delivers immediate rewards and builds incentives for continued high-quality harvests in the future."Much more on website, but nothing about projected release dates yet.
Casey
@Casey
04/11/08 18:37:56
54 posts

Chocolate documentaries


Posted in: News & New Product Press (Read-Only)

In Search of the Heart of Chocolate Chocolate Country Chocolate Info and trailers on the websites.If you know of others in the works or completed, post them here!
updated by @Casey: 12/13/24 12:16:07
Chocoflyer
@Chocoflyer
04/11/08 17:16:50
71 posts

"What do you mean they're closed?!?" - a story of chocolate discovery


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

Several months ago I visited San Francisco- choco-paradise- with the sole intention of finding every chocolate shop in the city (ok I also took a regular city sights tour) and to take the Gourmet Walks Chocolate Tour. Among the shops on this tour was Fog City News, which i had heard about and was SO excited to see- over 200 brands of choc in one room! This was seriously like a pilgrimage and sure to rock my world- until the tour started and the guide says" "Unfortunately Fog City News is closed for Presidents Day" - wait WHAT??? are you kidding me? Freakin Presidents Day!!???? what kind of reason is that to close? well it just so happens that Fog City News is in the Financial District which was all shut down for that extended weekend so....crap. CRAP on a CRAP CRACKER i say! now what? Im all the way here from Florida! Its not like I can just come back in a few days or next week! So i try to get over it by enjoying the rest of the tour (See's and Leonidas were substituted for Fog Ctiy- so i was happy enough- tour was still great).Well next day im on a mission in another part of town and have Chocolate Covered on my list- having never heard or read about it, all i have is the address. It looks small and unassuming from the front, but upon entering I am completely dumbfounded and shaken to my core- this is it! THIS is the WALL OF CHOCOLATE i was hoping & dreaming to see at Fog City! OMG there were so many bars & varieties of choco-goodness i could hardly take it all in, and the owner was immediatly friendly and helpful, we chatted and had much knowledge in common- I was so stoked to find this place and he agreed he is compared to Fog City a lot but in a totally cooler neighborhood and with an even bigger selection! So i was just thrilled to pieces, this shop made my day after the massive disappointment day before- anyone looking for any kind of choc bar can find it right here in a cute shoe box size shop called Chocolate Covered- Thank you Jack, thank you ten-fold. Many choco-blessings to you good man. Choc on.(and yes, i will be back for Fog City next time...)Please share YOUR chocolate discoveries here, it would be fun to hear everyone's adventures and travel stories!
updated by @Chocoflyer: 04/17/15 13:41:11
Chocoflyer
@Chocoflyer
04/11/08 21:22:05
71 posts

Frey's rainbow of unique flavors bars.....


Posted in: Tasting Notes

There were some revisions made to include dark choc....my mistake.
Chocoflyer
@Chocoflyer
04/11/08 16:38:49
71 posts

Frey's rainbow of unique flavors bars.....


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I will be adding photos soon to show the beautiful rainbow of flavors offered by Frey's Supreme line of choc- they are a Swiss co. that apparently made this line exclusivley for Target stores to break into the American market (according to their website press releases) A little history: Frey is a 100% Swiss co. started waaaay back in 1887 in the little village of Aargau, Switzerland as a small family business run by brothers Max & Robert Frey. Today, Chocolate Frey is still made entirely in Buchs, Switz. where the complete manufacture process, from bean-to-bar, occurs. The bars are quite slim and have some very UNIQUE flavors- here's a list:Rhubarb & Aloe VeraWhite Lemon & LimeJaponaise (hazelnut & meringue crunch)TiramisuHot Chili PepperBouquet D'OrangesCitron & Poivre (black pepper)Cafe & Cacao NibPecan & CaramelCoeur de MacadamieCinnamon & Blood OrangeWhite w/BlueberryMerveille de LaitNoir SatinGingerbread (holiday only)Cinnamon Coriander (holiday only)About half of these are white chocolate based, and I just can't eat white choc (sorry, just Ick to me) so I have tried the other flavors with milk & dark choc. The Tiramisu, Japonaise, Pecan & Caramel were all very good for super milky Swiss milk choc- the flavors really came through - but I much preferred the dark choc. I am impressed with the variety of flavors but some are just beyond me to actually eat. I would love to know what tasting notes others have....they are very affordable at only $1.99. Has anyone else seen these at Target and tried them??
updated by @Chocoflyer: 05/08/15 02:00:29
Casey
@Casey
04/18/08 11:45:24
54 posts

Can your palate be trained or are some just stronger than others?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

If anyone is looking for tasting wheels, I have several linked to from my blog How to taste chocolate
cybele
@cybele
04/14/08 20:59:56
37 posts

Can your palate be trained or are some just stronger than others?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I found that wine tastings really worked my muscles. Actually, it's not so much about tasting, it's about being able to find what that flavor is.Guittard has an excellent Tasting Wheel like the ones you get at wine tastings that helps a lot. It's good to refer to it when you're trying to pin down something. I know sometimes I bring up memories like "This reminds me of Eric's barn." but I won't know quite what that means until I figure out that it's hay that I'm tasting.I'll see if I can find & post the tasting wheel.I took one of those supertaster tests and thankfully found that I'm a regular taster. (Supertasters have higher incidences of colon cancer.)However, I have a super sense of smell (in a rather annoying way sometimes).Some women also find that their sense of smell changes throughout the month, so Casey's suggestion of trying things consistently might help you to find the best time for you.Most importantly, don't be afraid to enjoy what you enjoy, no matter what the others say.
Chocoflyer
@Chocoflyer
04/14/08 09:40:48
71 posts

Can your palate be trained or are some just stronger than others?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Thank you Casey I appreciate your knowledgable feedback and those are alll excellent suggestions. I will give it a try! Hopefully Im just a normal taster who needs to try harder.....
Casey
@Casey
04/11/08 16:59:22
54 posts

Can your palate be trained or are some just stronger than others?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

This is a fascinating discussion topic, and I'll throw in my two cents for the moment. I think they can be "trained" for instance if you take one chocolate a day, and take some time in each day to have a quiet place where you can concentrate, away from all kinds of odors and distractions. This can be at one of the palate peaks of the day, like 10-11 am or 5-6 pm or maybe even very early in the morning. Make sure your palate is clean with green apple, bread, and /or water, and that you haven't just had a big spicy or strong tasting meal. If you examine a different chocolate every day, carefully tasting and writing down some notes -- maybe even trying a small amount of this same chocolate several times during that day-- soon you will begin to really sense more and more flavors.There are many tasting games and exercises in Clay's book and Chloe's book and also online, which aim to help you develop and discern different flavors, like comparing side by side and so on. And perhaps others will offer suggestions here also. And important to realize that you will not taste all of the things the "experts" and critics do, and probably not as many notes either, at least not at first. After awhile you will begin to taste more notes, and this heightens your sense of taste gradually with other foods as well. When you really focus on something, you really tune in and appreciate the world of taste.One other thing is the whole supertaster issue. At this point there are considered to be three kinds of tasters in the world, the normal taster, the non-taster, and the supertaster. Non-taster, pretty bad designation, huh?But this is all about how many fungiform papillae, which have the taste buds, are on the tongue. If you have fewer than 15 in a 1/4" diameter space on the tongue then you are a non or under taster, 15-30 is normal, and then 30+ is super. But it doesn't mean that if you are a normal or under taster that you cannot develop and learn to taste the nuances of flavor, but you might need to be a bit more persistent and patient. And there is a little test to determine roughly where your tongue falls in this. Read about how to do this here . I have done this cute little test and it seems I'm a supertaster, with over 50. About 25%, and more women than men, are supertasters. 50% normal, and 25% under.And also there are many not too complex chocolates in the world, so if one eats mainly those then they may not find many flavors there no matter their number of taste buds!
Chocoflyer
@Chocoflyer
04/11/08 16:07:27
71 posts

Can your palate be trained or are some just stronger than others?


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I may not be using the term palate exactly right, but Im sad to say I think mine was just born weak. I have been a chocophile for over 20 years but I still don't seem to taste ALL of the various nuances and flavors in diff chocolates that most of the chocolate experts and critics describe. I taste some, but not to the degree that many others do...its a bummer. Is this something we can train, like a muscle or sense ( ie. lose your sight and hearing gets better?) and if so, how do I work on this? Any suggestions?
updated by @Chocoflyer: 04/14/15 06:23:12
Holly & Paul Stabin
@Holly & Paul Stabin
04/11/08 14:49:51
8 posts

The World Pastry Team Championship in Nashville with Clay Gordon


Posted in: News & New Product Press (Read-Only)

The Chocolate Lovers Travel Club is about to post the brochure for this delicious upcoming Labor Day Weekend event with Clay. Over 3 days and 4 nights, he has arranged for us to have an insiders peek at the behind the scenes workings of the Championship - tours of the kitchens, individual access to the front while the competition is going on.There will be personal introductions to chocolatiers and chefs plus Q&A time with Clay. VIP seating at the Championship, Awards Ceremony and the Gala Dinner - for a sweet finish. Never before has anyone (outside of the judges) been allowed to taste the desserts that these competing teams prepare right after the photographs are taken!We're also attending the Grand Ole Opry, taking a luncheon cruise aboard the General Jackson Showboat and kicking our heels at the Wildhorse Saloon and enjoy their fantastic BBQ dinner...All that's required between now and May 1, 2008 is a $500 deposit so we can get a count and get back with the organizer of the event. Once we have a minimum of 10 attendees - we're off and running! Prices and many more details will be in the brochure. Look for it within the next 24 hours! If you're already a CLTC member - you'll receive an email with all the details.
updated by @Holly & Paul Stabin: 12/13/24 12:16:07
Seby Singh
@Seby Singh
04/23/08 14:51:19
17 posts

Paris


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

Sorry Clay. I must have misread about the hot chocolate and I got the address for A l'Etoile d'Or from the internet so not sure if it is correct or not.
Liliana Martínez
@Liliana Martínez
04/15/08 07:33:58
2 posts

Paris


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

Dear Greger,Before going to Paris you have to see Sofia Coppola film Marie Antoinette, and then, visit Debauve & Gallais, 30, Rue des Saints-Peres, Paris VII. Ask for Les pistoles de Marie Antoinette, specially the one with orange flavor, it's just amazing. The place is from another world, you feel like being at XVIII century.My best regards,Lili
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