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Sabastion
@Sabastion
04/07/11 13:06:54
9 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

So in your opinion about how much could I produce per year for that initial investment?

The infrastructure is not a problem unlike here in the states our power on my island is much more stable. I will be doing most wiring and install my-self. I need to know sickly from an equipment standpoint what my cost will look like. One of the things am considering is cutting my processing down some, and reserve the surplus for export as a raw product.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
04/07/11 09:03:57
1,696 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

Sebastion:

Sebastian is right: your budget is unrealistic.

You will find it difficult to produce this amount of finished chocolate for this money.

You may be able to purchase equipment used but it will most likely need extensive (and expensive) refurbishing.

One thing you may not have budgeted for: If your location does not have the necessary power (at least 400 amp 3-phase 480) the cost of getting the necessary service installed from your local utility company and your facility wired could easily cost $40,000all by itselfif it were being done in the US . I can't speak for what it might cost on the island you want to build on.

Another thing to consider at this scale (it's less of an issue in smaller batches) is materials storage and handling.

:: Clay

Sabastion
@Sabastion
04/06/11 15:52:03
9 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

Thanks for the info. I am trying to set up for about $160,000. So the Auctioin house is called "Rabin Auction House".
Sebastian
@Sebastian
04/06/11 13:26:33
754 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

You're looking at handling, assuming you want to start from beans, about 10-12 tons of dry beans a month. You've moved out of the realm of hobbiest or artisinal shop, and into relatively large scale manufacture. I think you'll find that on this scale, all of your options are going to be costly i'm afraid...an 1800 mm 5 roll refiner just sold from Rabin (auction house) from a Nestle facility for $20,000 - which is an absolute STEAL. If you're cost conscious - and you should be prepared to spend multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars at this scale i'd think - you might want to consider watching the auctions.
Sabastion
@Sabastion
04/06/11 13:01:23
9 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

That's winnowing Sebastian.

Do you have some information?

Sabastion
@Sabastion
04/06/11 12:43:32
9 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

liquor and Chocolate...
Scott
@Scott
04/06/11 12:22:03
44 posts

Epuipment


Posted in: News & New Products Press

It's only April, but I'll go ahead and cast my vote for this as comment of the year.
Sebastian
@Sebastian
04/06/11 12:18:30
754 posts

Epuipment


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Process what? Liquor? Chocolate? It's very inexpensive to make a widower, but the legal implications are significant...
Sabastion
@Sabastion
04/06/11 11:52:47
9 posts

Epuipment


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Looking for small scale equipment to set up processing plan.

Capacity of about 104 tons per year .

(Roaster, grinder, and Dehulling/winnowing. Was thinking about pressing butter but so far all the machines I have looked at are very costly) Looking for some feedback.


updated by @Sabastion: 03/11/26 06:20:34
Jackie Jones
@Jackie Jones
04/06/11 08:41:31
15 posts

Bacon


Posted in: News & New Products Press

I have had many people asking for bacon & chocolate. What is the life span of bacon dipped in chocolate if kept cool (64 degrees air temp) ( I usually make it just before serving at parties).

Is it possibly that coating the bacon in chocolate helps to preserve it? I use dark chocolate.

Have a job of 100 boxes of truffles and wanted to put "1" truffle with bacon in the box.


updated by @Jackie Jones: 03/11/26 06:20:34
Roberto Pombar
@Roberto Pombar
04/04/12 20:50:23
2 posts

Where to find cocoa pulp?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

hello benoit my name is Roberto from Ecuador , i am a reliable source of cocoa pulp , i can export my product and have excellent quality, i have heard this is used in chocolate industry as an improver.

if you are likely i can give you more details about my frozen cacao pulp industry.

thanks

email: robertopombar@hotmail.com

Jim2
@Jim2
04/07/11 04:01:33
49 posts

Where to find cocoa pulp?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Benoit,
The juice we drink is not pasteurized and I doubt that it is available in this area. I live in the cacau farm and we daily use fruits, fruit juices and vegetables that come from our garden or orchards. I'm afraid we are a bit primitive for some of the 1st world customs

Sorry...I guess you will have to come visit us to drink cacau pulp!
Best regards
Jim Lucas

Jim2
@Jim2
04/06/11 11:30:16
49 posts

Where to find cocoa pulp?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Jim Lucas <cacaufarmer@yahoo.com> wrote:
Benoit,
The "pulp" you are referencing is an integral part of the cacau fruit (pod). The seeds (cacau beans) are surrounded by this viscous material. When the fruit is ripened, the "pulp" is at it's highest sugar content and very flavorful. In order to capture the "pulp", one needs to be present when the fruit (pods) are opened and the seeds (cacau beans) removed. Typically "pulp" is collected by placing the newly harvested beans in a centrifugal separator which quickly removes liquids from the bean mass. The collected liquids are sieved to remove large solids and stored in 100-250 ml packets which are frozen and stored.

There are many points of distribution in the cacau regions of Brazil and if you would like to follow the trail, I will be happy to send references. Bear in mind the "pulp" must remain frozen until it is consumed and shipping could get complicated and pricey.

In our farms, the pulp or mel (honey) is extracted during normal harvests and consumed within hours of collection. Families living in the farms typically maintain refrigerated stocks for daily use and find it much less costly and more healthy than cola drinks. We do not process with a centrifuge because of the requirement for a sugar rich environment to initiate fermentation. During fermentation cycles, the pulp drains from the fermentation boxes under gravity forces and normally is complete after 48-72 hours. Once drained, it becomes waste and is processed as such,


Best regards
Jim Lucas
Jim2
@Jim2
04/05/11 08:08:08
49 posts

Where to find cocoa pulp?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Benoit,

I assume you are refering to the liquid encapsulated by the cocoa pod. If that is true, you must find someone willing to collest the material during harvest periods and freeze immediately. The liquid contains a substantial amount of sugar and will begin fermentation soon after the pod is opened. here in Brazil, the liquids are collected and frozen later to be incorporated into "cacau juice" which is a popular drink in the cacau regions.

What quantities are you requiring and for what period of time?

best regards

Jim Lucas

Benoit N
@Benoit N
04/05/11 02:32:14
14 posts

Where to find cocoa pulp?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Hello

I am trying to find a reliable source of cocoa pulp.

Who can help me?

Benot


updated by @Benoit N: 04/07/25 13:00:14
Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
04/25/13 14:42:46
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I think that tomric might have the software. If not then Chocolat-chocolat in Montreal will have it. Purchasing anywhere within North America is fairly easy and straight forward. It's just as easy to order directly from Deco artist in England. Maybe even faster for shipping.

Akua Obenewaa Donkor
@Akua Obenewaa Donkor
04/25/13 13:12:10
5 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Please can anyone help me where i can buy only the software in the United States? I already have an edible printer

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
03/29/13 20:17:19
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

TS02 directly on the printer. Attached are the settings that I use. If the images are sticking to the sheet (partially) then there is too much ink flow. The settings on the attachment are for any canon printer. If the ink is flowing to much then change the brightness to LIGHT.

Cesar Jose
@Cesar Jose
03/29/13 18:48:24
11 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Debra, I already have my canon 4920 and CIS system, chocosheets from HCF. But my first tries were bad. Do you directly use the TS02 on the printer? or stick it on a regular A4. An also do you select normal paper or any other option like transfer or photopaper. Thank you for any direction. On my case between theory and practice there is a big gap :)

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
03/13/13 09:08:21
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

There are several companies that can do the customized logos. Chef Rubber, PCB from France, and several other companies.

Eric Normand
@Eric Normand
03/13/13 03:00:38
3 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


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I think the logo was printed with the silk screen process with colored cocoa butter.

Glenn Knowles
@Glenn Knowles
03/12/13 19:57:58
19 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Jim,

My guess is that it's produced by an outside vendor such as Sweet Swiss in Spokane, WA. They've made similar transfer sheets for me with white logos...and the staff there are great to work with. If you find out something different, please let me know as I'd be curious to know how, too!

Glenn

Jim Braunagel
@Jim Braunagel
03/12/13 19:38:00
9 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I've read quite a bit on this site, but not seen info that would explain how to print the logos found here: http://www.chocolatceleste.com/

Do you know how she has printed a logo with white that only partially cover the surface on dark chocolate?

Cesar Jose
@Cesar Jose
02/27/13 16:42:53
11 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks! I will make my first tryimmediately I receive my sheets from UK :), on the other hand here I use CIS already in two printers, for regular ink, and there is no brand since those are from China, but for sure price is the best way to choose. You have some that cost like $30 and some of $60, I will go for the costly one. Here is a link with an example: http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.co/MCO-403674573-impresora-multifuncional-canon-mp230-con-sistema-continuo-_JM Actually, I already talked with some people using CIS (no brand) for photoprinting and not problem at all. ;)

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
02/26/13 10:12:36
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I always use a thin layer of white. I use white chocolate and cocoa butter.

100 grams white chocolate and 30 grams cocoa butter is my blend. Depending on what white chocolate you use, you can make minor adjustments.

What CIS system are you using. What brand of CIS are you looking at?


updated by @Debra Fleck: 09/07/15 11:15:45
Cesar Jose
@Cesar Jose
02/25/13 17:08:43
11 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thank you Debra! Here many photocake and photochocolate businesses are using already the CIS system with good savings. I just order my inks from Kopyk ;) I was wondering if you can advice me if for the tranfers on black chocolate you use a thin white cocoa butter layer on the sheet. I saw that some chocolates are a mix of white (photo) and black, but some are 100% black, what method do you suggest? Best regards

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
02/22/13 21:20:42
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have used several different brands from the United States. I live in Canada. I've used Icing Images, PhotoFrost, and Kopykake. The best inks for color matching to the original canon inks is Kopykake. The cartridges they use are quite well made. I use the canon mg5320. Canon is always changing their printers so I look for the new models that have the same printhead as whatever model I have. I just bought a new printer last weekend because it (mg5320) was on sale and the price was cheaper than buying a new printhead! I have not purchased the continuous ink system but have done some research in the past for this type of technology. I would be very curious to know how the continuous ink system works for you.

Cesar Jose
@Cesar Jose
02/22/13 14:55:47
11 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Dear Debra, greetings from Colombia, I read carefully this post and your valuable hints. I was wondering if you can advice me any particular edible ink brand, I am planning to import in bulk since here inks are quite expensive.

Also which Canon model are you using, we dont have all the models but I will try my best and install it aContinuous ink system.

thanks in advance for any direction.

Eric Normand
@Eric Normand
02/03/13 08:19:26
3 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks for all these dtails Debra. I was already changing the intensity of my prints but still had problems. I willtry the one from Home Chocolate Factory.

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
02/01/13 10:55:09
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Sounds like they are the one made by Deco chocolate artist in England. The spray is too thin and then when you print on them the ink saturates through that thin covering on the sheet. If you press print, the dialog box pulls up. Go into "properties", go to "colour/intensity", click "maual", then go to "brightness" and choose the "light" (will be automatically on normal). That will help reduce the amount of ink being printed. I use these sheets when I have artwork that is very delicate. These transfer sheets work great when they work!! The best solution is to use the ones by "Cake Art Intl". There is an American distributor but I find them to expensive. I purchase from "Home Chocolate Factory" in England. Ask for the trade discount if you are a business. The best size to use is TS02. I find the TS01 has caused me grief in the past. The American distributor even told me the TS02 size is a better quality product.

Eric Normand
@Eric Normand
02/01/13 10:26:14
3 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am using transfer sheets made with starch and sugar for chocolates, same as the one sold by Tomric. I frequently have this problem: The ink stays partially on the transfer sheet so I have to make new printshave to trow awaya lot of material.

Does anyone have experienced this problem and if you did, did you find a solution?

Thanks! ric

Debra Farnum
@Debra Farnum
01/29/13 17:58:38
5 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


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What a life saver you are....I've spent the last several days working on this, going crazy. The Edible Artist software did the trick. I had download the Chocolate Artist originally but couldn't print and the Deco software works with these saved files...Thank You, Thank You, Thank You..

I can't tell you how much I appreciated your advice, :))

Debra Farnum
@Debra Farnum
01/29/13 17:53:16
5 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


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Thanks Glenn. I checked with Tomric and they are no longer carrying the product. I am now in the process of downloading the InDesign program....Thanks for the help :)) Deb

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
01/29/13 14:53:54
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

It is worth it to buy the USB stick. Deco artist also has the cake software which is free. If you download the Edible Artist software, scroll way down in the template page and you will see all the template shapes. Just make sure it matches what you need.

Glenn Knowles
@Glenn Knowles
01/29/13 14:11:47
19 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Deb,

I bought my USB stick/key fob from Tomric in New York. Check to see if they any more. Alternatively you can make a template pattern in Adobe InDesign to match your molds.

Good luck!

Glenn

Debra Farnum
@Debra Farnum
01/29/13 13:00:57
5 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi

I'm looking for templates for my choc. molds, specifically the heart (DCRPDR9013) & the oval (11271). Other than making my own (last resort) I was hoping that someone might already have some templates that they would like to share, possibly?

I have looked into the Chocolate Artist Software, and apparently that has been discontinued according to Chocolate World/Deco UK (plus it was ridiculously priced). I was able to download the software but I need a USB stick to print, perhaps someone has one that they might like to sell?

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks

Deb

Solis Lujan
@Solis Lujan
07/26/12 22:55:11
26 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Has anyone use gold metallic ink transfers on dark chocolate?

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
07/23/12 07:48:01
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


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These can be used just like any other transfer sheets you would buy ie. PCB, Chef Rubber etc. You do need to use a white backing to make your image show. If not the image gets lost in the dark chocolate.

Dianne Trinque
@Dianne Trinque
07/23/12 00:42:48
3 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Can this program be used to make my own chocolate transfer sheets to be used on hard ganaches, or is it something that is strictly used with magnetic molds? If this program doesn't have that capability, is there any other program that can do that?

david roberts
@david roberts
06/07/12 13:49:56
11 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Debra exactly the same ingredients, so must come from the same company these are made in Holland, loads better than the ones from Deco.There called Bobbon sheets on the box.

Debra Fleck
@Debra Fleck
06/03/12 12:46:18
32 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

David, what are the ingredients listed for your chocosheets? I am wondering who Chocolate World is using for their supplier. The cake art sheets are: water, cornstarch, sugar, cocoa butter, citric acid, bamboo fibre, soya lecithin, vanilla flavour.

david roberts
@david roberts
06/03/12 12:37:54
11 posts

Chocolate Artist Software/Printer


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I agree Debra the deco sheets are not the quality you would excpect, being as i purchased a job lot package ( never again ) reading these posts encouraged me to try chocolate world, what a difference.

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