Forum Activity for @Robert Frederick Rankin

Robert Frederick  Rankin
@Robert Frederick Rankin
05/22/11 17:56:55
7 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

I've got a Santha 20 which I've been using for 6 months and been quite happy with it. The only problem was that the cap over the tension nut does not fit well and we had to put in plastic straps to hold it on properly. I did find though that the Santha people could do with improving their customer service andare very lackadaisical in replying to email enquiries. But the reasonable price more than compensates any drawbacks so far - Bob Rankin
Sirius Chocolate
@Sirius Chocolate
05/21/11 01:23:00
10 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

Thanks!

I didnt even look into those because on first glance they appeared to be only for milling powder. If nothing else that expands my options - who wouldnt want "The Rolls Royce of Grindeurs"...

Potomac Chocolate
@Potomac Chocolate
05/20/11 06:24:26
191 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

You may want to look at CocoaTown's line of larger melangers that they call grindeurs. The come in 30, 40 and 65lb versions.

http://cocoatown.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&...

Sirius Chocolate
@Sirius Chocolate
05/19/11 12:04:51
10 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

Yeah, I just canceled my order after a week of them not answering the phone or responding to my messages. Do you recommend any other Melangers?

Im really dissappointed because I was excited about the 40L volume and the variable speed control. Alas, I should have known it was too good to be true...

The only other models I can find on the internet are the Cocoa Town melangers ( http://www.cocoatown.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=55 ) and the Ultra Melangers on Chocolate Alchemy ( http://shop.chocolatealchemy.com/collections/equipment ). But neither really have the throughput Im looking for.

Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr.
@Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr.
05/18/11 08:08:02
24 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

Yes the machine is not reliable I have 3 of them (sigh)

Ernesto

Brad Churchill
@Brad Churchill
05/16/11 12:05:48
527 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

When I first started making chocolate in my home in 2005, I used a small version of the Santha, and pretty much destroyed it. The end result was a complete rebuild with a more powerful motor, fibreglass belts, and numerous changes to the bin where the nibs are ground.

I know there are artisan chocolatiers out there who are using the machines you refer to, but given their design and original intended design (not to grind cocoa beans, but rather grind soft beans into pastes for East Indian food), they will all inevitably fail. In the end, the question is: How handy are you? I guarantee you will be replacing belts, and having to add some type of heating mechanism to the machine to keep the chocolate warm enough to stay liquid.

I don't want to discourage you from starting your own venture. It's fun, and exciting, and rewarding, and scary all at the same time. And... Like I said, there are micro chocolatiers out there who are using modified versions of this machine. I'm just trying to tell you from experience what to expect from it going in!

Cheers and best wishes.

Brad

Sirius Chocolate
@Sirius Chocolate
05/16/11 10:52:56
10 posts

Santha Melangeurs


Posted in: Geek Gear - Cool Tools (Read-Only)

Greetings Fellow Chocophiles,

I have recently begun the process of purchasing a Spectra 40 Stone Melanger - http://www.santhausa.com/Spectra%2040%20Melanger%20Speed%20Controller.htm

Is there anybody out there on the Chocolate Life who has experience using this equipment, or who knows anyone who has?

I am receiving an extremely low level of customer service, and the warranty is very limited on the product, as well as there being no facility in the United States (where I am) to service the melangeur in the event of mechanical problems. On top of this, I have been told I will have to wait several months for the Spectra 40 to ship directly from the manufacturer in India.

With an investment of this nature, my business simply cannot afford for this type of equipment to be anything other than top-notch for many years to come, if not decades. Any advice or information regarding the Spectra 40 Melanger specifically, or Santha in general, is greatly appreciated.

.:SiriuS:.


updated by @Sirius Chocolate: 12/13/24 12:15:15
Aylen Lyra Doucette
@Aylen Lyra Doucette
05/16/11 11:08:18
3 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I found them, they are great! thank you!
Janice Harper
@Janice Harper
05/16/11 07:58:39
2 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Try Nashville Wraps -- they have a line of eco friendly candy packaging, and many are affordable.
Omar Forastero
@Omar Forastero
05/16/11 03:13:57
86 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

i see. thanks for sharing
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
05/16/11 03:09:57
81 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

There is no specific reason truffles suit NatureFlex better than say rocky road orloose chocolates. I just don't see many bars in clear packaging. We put ice blocks (the Australian name for ice confectionary) into it, it's very adaptable, heat sealable and a good barrier film.
Omar Forastero
@Omar Forastero
05/16/11 02:50:46
86 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

why is natureflex good for truffles specifically?
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
05/15/11 18:40:59
81 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

If your making truffles I can recommend NatureFlex bags by Innovia though you will need to find out from Innovia who makes bags in your country if your not in Australia or NZ.
Aylen Lyra Doucette
@Aylen Lyra Doucette
05/14/11 23:39:54
3 posts

Packaging--eco friendly


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Does anyone know of any great websites that sell packaging particularly good for chocolate making...I am not going big here, just local markets and fairs....eco friendly preferable.


updated by @Aylen Lyra Doucette: 04/20/15 08:14:40
Carrie Feuer
@Carrie Feuer
05/25/11 03:03:50
1 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Nat, Just wondering which island you are on. I live on oahu and am just getting started in the chocolate trade, still very much in learning mode and if you are on Oahu I might come check out your chocolate at farmer's market.

carrie

deborah2
@deborah2
05/17/11 17:43:50
25 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Nat,

You might want to try something like this:melt compound chocolate (which appears to have a melting temp of 110 or so) and soy wax together and mold. I tried this with some bon bons and they survived just fine for a few hours in the low to mid 80's, out of direct sunlight. They got soft but did not appear visibly melted and re-gained their shape when cooled. And, they look just like chocolate:

Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
05/17/11 15:29:59
81 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Things to remember, that I did not realise with mould copy's, when doing market research is:

1. Some children will inevitably put the copy in their mouth.

2. People get really disappointed if the product looks different to the copy.

3. Colour and appeal are actually very important, an ugly copy will impact sales negatively.

I reckon mixing food grade beeswax with cacao powder may provide a similar sheen / lustre and also make the beeswax melt at a higher temperature. Whether the result is convincing and appealing will take experimentation.

Nat
@Nat
05/17/11 07:44:34
75 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks for the tip, Clay. I've made some molds with silicone but the compound always comes in garish colors of purple or blue and as nothing sticks to silicone, trying to paint this is impossible. Paint peels right off. The mold companies won't explain how to color silicone to your preferred color. They'll do it for you if you order 50 lbs of mold compound but I don't need 500 sample bars!

-Nat
____________________
Nat Bletter, PhD
Chocolate R&D
Madre Chocolate
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
05/16/11 04:39:32
1,688 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Nat:

There is food-grade silicon used to make ... molds. It can probably be colored, too. Available through Chef Rubber, among others.

:: Clay

Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
05/15/11 23:13:54
81 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Apparently there is even a food grade plaster of Paris... disappointingly used by some Tofu manufacturers.
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
05/15/11 18:37:22
81 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

We occasionally use foodgradebeeswax for our moulds but you may still have problems with melting in Hawaii.Medical grade plaster of paris may also be an option but I've never used it.
Nat
@Nat
05/15/11 03:36:02
75 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

We sellchocolate bars every week at 2 localfarmers markets in Hawaii. Temp control isdefinitely an issue, especially in the summers in Hawaii. We keep all the bars in a cooler with ice packs, put dummy bars out on display (cardboard wrapped in foil & labels) that won't melt, and keep smallamounts of samples in sampler trays with ice underneath.

A bigger problem for us is that we want to display our beautiful molds, but unless we can make them out of some other material that won't melt in the heat, that's not possible.

If anyone has figured out a somewhat durable material that is also food safe and they feel comfortable putting in theirchocolate molds their using for other things, please, let us know!

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
05/14/11 19:01:53
1,688 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

In NYC, some food establishments are NYC Dept of Health and Mental Hygiene OR NYS Ag & Markets. Some are both, there are very few that are Ag & Markets only. In NYC there are different permits/licenses for mobile and farmer markets, too.
Robyn Dochterman
@Robyn Dochterman
05/14/11 18:18:17
23 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thank you, Clay. As always, I appreciate your comments and insights here. I have a shop, licensed commercially for wholesale (and retail is allowed) by the Ag Dept. In Minnesota, Ag usually licenses food establishments that are not restaurants. I will definitely call and ask my Ag guy. Would still value thoughts, experiences, etc from those who are farmers' market veterans.

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
05/14/11 18:05:12
1,688 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Robyn -

The health department regulations are going to vary state by state, county by county, and city by city (where is Scandia?). The only way to find out is to go ask, or if you are lucky, go on-line. NYC government bureaucracy is messed up in a lot of ways, but the nyc.gov web site does an excellent job of letting any who wants to open a food business in NYC know that they need to know to open any kind of food business. Unfortunately, none of that applies to where I live in Westchester if I wanted to open up exactly the same business in Westchester.

The only way to know is to ask your local health department. Oh, and keep in mind that there may be state and/or county permits and/or licenses that may be required as well as local ones.

As for the type of mobile unit you're talking about ... decide what you want to do, then choose the vehicle (pun intended) that will let you do it. A small hot-dog cart may be good only for selling prepared items. A food truck would mean that you can prepare stuff to order ... if that's what you want to do. Another thing to consider is that except for storage (ingredients, finished product to be sold), a food truck, kitted out properly, could be large enough to produce product for a million dollar plus business and could cost less than the same amount of space in a commercial structure.

As for farmer markets, there are a number of ChocolateLife members who've started successful businesses at the markets and I will let them tell their stories ...

Robyn Dochterman
@Robyn Dochterman
05/14/11 14:01:12
23 posts

Farmers' markets and other mobile options


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi all. I'd love to hear from those of you who have sold your chocolates at farmer's markets. I have some memory of a prior discussion about suggestions for keeping the temp constant, but can't recall specifics (point me in the right direction please if you know the thread).

I would also appreciate any sense of demographics/psychographics you might have formed at farmers' markets. For instance, for those of you who sell this way, what impressions do you have of the audience/customers? Where do you think they fall on the sophistication and price continuums?

Anyone doing a mobile chocolate unit yet? If so, are you using a hotdog-style cart? A catering pickup truck? A full size food truck? Something else?

And finally, anyone have a sense of health dept. regs regarding mobile units when no heating is required (i.e. chocolates only)?

Thanks very much! --Robyn


updated by @Robyn Dochterman: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Dennis Davis
@Dennis Davis
05/13/11 16:01:56
1 posts

I could use you help if you like my candieman.com


Posted in: Self Promotion / Spam

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Would anyone be interested in setting up a back link with my web site?


updated by @Dennis Davis: 05/09/15 15:50:33
Daniel Mundschau
@Daniel Mundschau
05/12/11 18:04:34
2 posts

I'm so new at this that.......


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I didn't know melting cocoa butter with sugar and powder only causes a nice layer of butter over your sugar and powder....

So.... any way to get it all to mix so I can make my own milk chocolate? Is taht what "conching" does? If so, I'll throw 100lbs in my concrete mixer with a space heater blowing in.


updated by @Daniel Mundschau: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Omar Forastero
@Omar Forastero
10/13/12 08:41:05
86 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

ahh yes good call Melanie. besides, you'll need a heater anyways once used the first time after the moulds go through the cooling tunnel.

Melanie Boudar
@Melanie Boudar
10/07/12 19:05:59
104 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I think energy wise its much easier to quick heat your molds with a hairdryer to warm them than heating a room 24 hrs a day to use them for 5 min. At .45 a kilowatt hour, a rate 4x the mainland for electricity, Nat no doubt started this conversation over sticker shock of the energy bill.

Omar Forastero
@Omar Forastero
10/07/12 01:07:46
86 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

What do you guys think of a heated room for mould storage only. keep the room at 30 - 31C. whenever type X mould is needed, the moulds would get trollied to the moulding section which has a perfect room temperature of 20 C.

Thoughts?

Jeff Stern
@Jeff Stern
05/17/11 16:16:15
78 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Perhaps generally not a bad idea, if you can immediately remove your filled molds or what have you to a much cooler area as others have pointed out. Otherwise, because of the warm ambient temperature, you will have the problem with latent heat of crystallization, and nothing would crystallize properly, and all your molded pieces would bloom. Also, even if you are holding properly crystallized chocolate in the 90-93F range, it will still continue to crystallize and thicken to a solid form (though still a very soft one) unless you are regularly doing something to break crystal down, like fluctuating the temperature to the upside occasionally.

I visited the Recchiuti operation in San Francisco two years ago, and he had made a "hot" room from a walk-in freezer by removing the cooling component and adding a heater. Basically, he kept it at somewhere in the upper 90 degree range and had large, painter size buckets of warm, liquid chocolate stored there. So whenever he needed warm chocolate, to say add to the enrober or other machines, he wouldn't have to wait for it to melt. He could just go in and grab a bucket of whatever type chocolate he needed. However, I don't believe he had the chocolate crystallized or "in temper" in old speak.

I work generally in a 62-67F environment and never have trouble with molding, with the exception of thick bars which have to be blown with a fan to remove the heat quickly.

Melanie Boudar
@Melanie Boudar
05/13/11 02:01:16
104 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I work in a 72-75 degree room and never have issues with the molds being too hot or too cold,it is necessary though to cool the choolate rather quickly as its setting up or it will retain heat and go out of temper(bloom) milk chocolate is especially prone to bloom, so cooling fast is a must.Using the continuous tempering machines like Selmi you never have to worry about the chocolate getting overcrystallized and thick or a depositer getting clogged.Would be nice to do something with all that heat though...
Daniel Mundschau
@Daniel Mundschau
05/12/11 18:02:02
2 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I saw a factory that they did this. If you do it at home, I'd also suggest in the hot room a dehumidifier or that air is gonna get pretty anti-chocolate.

Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
05/10/11 18:13:26
81 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I also think having a heated room would be a good idea (and probably unavoidable in Australia :).

You would need a heat exchanger for the exhaust of the AC.

antonino allegra
@antonino allegra
05/06/11 07:55:01
143 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Nat,

I'm not so sure about the room temperature of 28C/32C. (88/90F.?), i think that it might take to long to cool down (wrong crystal formation, blooming or something else?) or the shock from 90F. to a cool room 55F. would be to strong with a texture, shiny loss.

I keep my studio at constant 20/21 C. (68F) so the chocolate when hit the mold has first cooling "shock" of about 10C. then goes in a cooling/storage room at 16C, so in theory another cooling shock of 5C.

It works perfectly.

Here in Cape Town i have tried to work chocolate when room temp was about 90F (i didn't have AC) and it was a drama...

Then another question: how you are going to deal with delicate milk choc. and white chocolate?

Cheers,

Antonino

Desideri Chocolatiers

Nat
@Nat
05/06/11 07:08:32
75 posts

Why not heat your chocolate pouring room?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

We were just randomly throwing out ideas today here in Hawaii while makingchocolate, and we wondered why don'tpeople heat the room their temperedchocolate is poured in to the appropriate 88-92 F temp so that one doesn't have to worry about the molds being the wrong temp and shocking thechocolate, andyou also wouldn't need to worry about the batch ofchocolateyou have tempered cooling and becoming too thick to pour, and ifyou had a depositor,you wouldn't have to worry as much about thechocolate solidifying in the pipes & hoses.

We're not suggesting tempering in such a room since it would be hard to cool thechocolate on the downslope to 80 F, butyou could move the temperedchocolate bowl to a 90 room once it was tempered where the molds were waiting to be filled.

This may also not be easy in temperate places wherechocolate is usually made, but it'd be pretty easy in tropical areas like here in Hawaii! You could even have the exhaust of the AC for the tempering room feed into the heated molding room to save energy on both ends.

Let me know if youknow a good reason this wouldn't work.

Thanks,

-Nat
____________________
Nat Bletter, PhD
Chocolate R&D
Madre Chocolate

updated by @Nat: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Ricky Sanders
@Ricky Sanders
05/02/11 09:40:40
3 posts

Charging for R&D


Posted in: Opinion

We are a small company and have had a few inquires to have new products made for them. In what ways do you charge? Hourly + ingredients? A set amount?

Thanks,

Rick


updated by @Ricky Sanders: 05/16/15 01:13:27
Janice Tividad
@Janice Tividad
05/06/11 13:31:02
2 posts

Sculpting Chocolate - Any Advice?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Wendy and Laura

I've joined the Sculpting with Chocolate Group and hope to show people some of my work soon.

I've seen "Chocolate Decorations" by Chef Wybauw so will be getting this soon. Are there any other books that you would recommend and would you say it was worth it attending classes to learn decorating with chocolate as well?

I would like to learn as much as possible but being on limited time and funds (I work full time - not chocolate related work unfortunately) I'm curious to see how others got to where they are now in building their knowledge about chocolate, whether it's their career or as a hobby.

Laura Marion
@Laura Marion
05/06/11 07:19:21
27 posts

Sculpting Chocolate - Any Advice?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

in it they have a big range of ways to work with chocolate such as using ice to rapidly cool shapes and keep flexibility
Laura Marion
@Laura Marion
05/06/11 07:16:53
27 posts

Sculpting Chocolate - Any Advice?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

yes as Wendy said, this book is very good !!!
Wendy Buckner
@Wendy Buckner
05/04/11 22:40:52
35 posts

Sculpting Chocolate - Any Advice?


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Janice! It is completely avoidable... You should check out the Sculpting with Chocolate Group! There are many ways to make chocolate decorations without using chocolate plastique. I make many chocolate decorations myself and refuse to use plastique. You may want to check out a book by Jean-Pierre Wybauw called "Chocolate Decorations". Chef Wybauw has a lot of helpful tips. I'm happy to help out how I can as well.

~Wendy

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